I feel like we can acknowledge the shiftiness of ideas for making ppl in hk get vaxxed (and implicitly recognize how difficult if not downright impossible it will be to actually get ppl to finish the biontech doses), and also not give credence to the anti-biontech arguments
Because it really will come back to bite us in the ass (beyond indirectly fueling hk exceptionalism + vaccine hesitancy)
And the majority of people being antivax arenât just against sinovac - heck, half of them donât know the difference between the two, and donât care.
This isnât meant to be criticism of anyone operating here on good faith (not, for this issue, those who are coming up with...
This isnât meant to be criticism of anyone operating here on good faith (not, for this issue, those who are coming up with...
Harebrained schemes to increase vaccination rates); rather, i just donât want us to accidentally create a fantasy narrative that doesnât actually reflect what I, and we, can see in real life.
But also, to be fair, letâs sum up a few more vaccine-related issues in hk, this time not related to the vaccine itself:
- lack of trust in the SAR government, as a whole AND ESPECIALLY ON THE ISSUE OF COVID VACCINES, is pronounced across the political spectrum (not identically)
- lack of trust in the SAR government, as a whole AND ESPECIALLY ON THE ISSUE OF COVID VACCINES, is pronounced across the political spectrum (not identically)
- thus vaccine hesitancy is not just high among âyellowsâ but also âbluesâ - for both vaccines, we are now in the âif you want to get vaxxed you probably haveâ stage.
- most of the arguments are bs or excuses; the remainder donât balance out covidâs threat, yes, even in hk.
- most of the arguments are bs or excuses; the remainder donât balance out covidâs threat, yes, even in hk.
- almost all public discourse on the vaccine sucks: the government is the largest culprit, but certain hk political figures are making things worse, and hkâs muzzled press isnât making things better either (not going to detail the reasons in this thread).
- thereâs a condescending (and somewhat neo-colonial) aspect to much of the well-meant pro-vax advice: it comes from either ânon-localâ (less âauthenticâ) voices, âeliteâ-ish types (guilty as charged, although I hope Iâm not condescending), or people currying govt favors.
- Even for those who arenât like that, itâs hard to not be perceived as such (cf. me), and itâs extremely hard to break through bubbles into comfort zones in a low-trust (and traumatized) society like Hong Kong.
- online-based disinformation (among Chinese-speaking communities)
- online-based disinformation (among Chinese-speaking communities)
*shittiness, but I guess those arguments are also *shifty*