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1/25
Attended a Twitter space in which a blue tick personality who identifies as "sėcular lîberal" was speaking.
The initial discussion got sidetracked, one thing led to another, & the conversation shifted to an old tweet of said "sėcular lîberal" in which she said something...
Attended a Twitter space in which a blue tick personality who identifies as "sėcular lîberal" was speaking.
The initial discussion got sidetracked, one thing led to another, & the conversation shifted to an old tweet of said "sėcular lîberal" in which she said something...
2/25
...on the lines of the movie industry losing Zâira Wâsim to "relıgıous radıcalısm".
Of course, it aroused understandable outrage from the other speakers.
The person kept insisting that "any life altering decision in the name of relıgıon" is "radıcalısm".
Anyone with a...
...on the lines of the movie industry losing Zâira Wâsim to "relıgıous radıcalısm".
Of course, it aroused understandable outrage from the other speakers.
The person kept insisting that "any life altering decision in the name of relıgıon" is "radıcalısm".
Anyone with a...
3/25
...rudimentary understanding of the English language will know the absurdity of such a statement.
Many speakers (some inarticulately), tried to explain how problematic an idea that any person who is "relıgıous" is a "radıcal", is (someone else's relıgıosıty/lack thereof...
...rudimentary understanding of the English language will know the absurdity of such a statement.
Many speakers (some inarticulately), tried to explain how problematic an idea that any person who is "relıgıous" is a "radıcal", is (someone else's relıgıosıty/lack thereof...
4/25
...no matter how uncomfortable/whatever, it makes you feel: is a personal choice, that should be respected).
But, the "sėcular lîberal" kept drawing the most bizarre of false equivalences b/w psėudoscıence & freedom of relıgıon. Also b/w mãjorîty community & mînorîtîes.
...no matter how uncomfortable/whatever, it makes you feel: is a personal choice, that should be respected).
But, the "sėcular lîberal" kept drawing the most bizarre of false equivalences b/w psėudoscıence & freedom of relıgıon. Also b/w mãjorîty community & mînorîtîes.
5/25
She couldn't comprehend how irresponsible it is to paint relîgîous ppl from mînorîty communities (Muslıms in this case), as "radıcals" for living their lives based on beliefs of the relîgîon they follow (Isłåm in this case).
When Muslıms/mînorîtîes are persecuted,...
She couldn't comprehend how irresponsible it is to paint relîgîous ppl from mînorîty communities (Muslıms in this case), as "radıcals" for living their lives based on beliefs of the relîgîon they follow (Isłåm in this case).
When Muslıms/mînorîtîes are persecuted,...
6/25
...discriminated against etc.; based on their very identity, how is it ok for "sėcular lîberals" to call them "radıcals" for percieved relıgıosıty?
Terminology matters. Words matter. Opinions expressed on a public platform to a large audience, matter.
This emboldens...
...discriminated against etc.; based on their very identity, how is it ok for "sėcular lîberals" to call them "radıcals" for percieved relıgıosıty?
Terminology matters. Words matter. Opinions expressed on a public platform to a large audience, matter.
This emboldens...
7/25
...& paves the way for the normalization/legitimization of the háteful rhetoric of the Muslım/mînorîty hating xėnôphôbės/Isłåmôphôbės.
If the so-called "sėcular lîberals" themselves see Muslıms as potential "radıcals" (on the basis of their relıgıosıty); what are they...
...& paves the way for the normalization/legitimization of the háteful rhetoric of the Muslım/mînorîty hating xėnôphôbės/Isłåmôphôbės.
If the so-called "sėcular lîberals" themselves see Muslıms as potential "radıcals" (on the basis of their relıgıosıty); what are they...
8/25
...really "fighting" for?
Such ppl should join the crowd that champions májôrîtárîánîsm. Maybe, as "sėcular lîberals", they can even write a little guidebook called, "The Good Indıan Mînorîty"!
If the whole mess of the toxicity in this country had to be traced back to...
...really "fighting" for?
Such ppl should join the crowd that champions májôrîtárîánîsm. Maybe, as "sėcular lîberals", they can even write a little guidebook called, "The Good Indıan Mînorîty"!
If the whole mess of the toxicity in this country had to be traced back to...
9/25
...one matter: it would be identity; esp that of mînorîtîes (assertion, representation, rights etc.).
And it was extremely cringey to listen to someone with a májôrîtárîán privilege yammer on about what she believes in, & how it's her "right" to "judge"; even as many ppl...
...one matter: it would be identity; esp that of mînorîtîes (assertion, representation, rights etc.).
And it was extremely cringey to listen to someone with a májôrîtárîán privilege yammer on about what she believes in, & how it's her "right" to "judge"; even as many ppl...
10/25
...tried to explain how unsėcular & illîberal it is to popularize stereotypes of mînorîtîes (esp the relıgıous ones); the way she did!
Another interesting pt was about femınısm. Femınısm is all about women having the freedom to make their own choices. Someone...
...tried to explain how unsėcular & illîberal it is to popularize stereotypes of mînorîtîes (esp the relıgıous ones); the way she did!
Another interesting pt was about femınısm. Femınısm is all about women having the freedom to make their own choices. Someone...
11/25
...else might not like those choices, but the freedom to make them; is what counts!
Femınısm is supposed to be egalitarian, not elitist. It doesn't matter what women believe in, they cannot be excluded from being a part of the movement or identifying themselves as...
...else might not like those choices, but the freedom to make them; is what counts!
Femınısm is supposed to be egalitarian, not elitist. It doesn't matter what women believe in, they cannot be excluded from being a part of the movement or identifying themselves as...
12/25
...femınısts; just cuz they don't check all the boxes on someone else's lists. Even when said someone else is a woman herself.
Again, it was the same justification all over again. Something like, "making choices on the basis of relıgıon is not really femınıst,...
...femınısts; just cuz they don't check all the boxes on someone else's lists. Even when said someone else is a woman herself.
Again, it was the same justification all over again. Something like, "making choices on the basis of relıgıon is not really femınıst,...
13/25
...but "radıcal"".
Maybe this discussion is beyond someone who can't even understand how stupıd it is to treat mînorîtîes as a community, on par/the same as mãjorîty (when their lived experiences are very different from each other (Indıan context) & not comparable at all).
...but "radıcal"".
Maybe this discussion is beyond someone who can't even understand how stupıd it is to treat mînorîtîes as a community, on par/the same as mãjorîty (when their lived experiences are very different from each other (Indıan context) & not comparable at all).
14/25
Personal choices are just that: personal. Nobody has the right to either impose them on someone else or have them be imposed upon, by someone else.
Athėısm is your choice. Relıgıon is your choice. One is not "better" than the other. It's just a choice.
In an ideal...
Personal choices are just that: personal. Nobody has the right to either impose them on someone else or have them be imposed upon, by someone else.
Athėısm is your choice. Relıgıon is your choice. One is not "better" than the other. It's just a choice.
In an ideal...
15/25
...world, everyone could say/do whatever they wanted; & expected it to have no consequence/impact on anything else.
But, this country/world is far from perfect.
You can't just say something that dėmonizes an already öppressed mînorîty & not expect it to have a negative...
...world, everyone could say/do whatever they wanted; & expected it to have no consequence/impact on anything else.
But, this country/world is far from perfect.
You can't just say something that dėmonizes an already öppressed mînorîty & not expect it to have a negative...
16/25
...effect.
Anyone who calls themselves a decent human being would know better than to associate words like "radıcals" (in the name of "freedom of expression"); for members of an oft targeted mînorîty community.
Not arguing that ppl don't have that right. They do. But,...
...effect.
Anyone who calls themselves a decent human being would know better than to associate words like "radıcals" (in the name of "freedom of expression"); for members of an oft targeted mînorîty community.
Not arguing that ppl don't have that right. They do. But,...
17/25
...they should be mindful while exercising said "rights".
When the seemingly privileged of an öppressed mînorîty can be casually labelled as "radıcals" for personal choices; I can only imagine what ppl who're unfortunately disadvantaged in the privilege dept, go through!
...they should be mindful while exercising said "rights".
When the seemingly privileged of an öppressed mînorîty can be casually labelled as "radıcals" for personal choices; I can only imagine what ppl who're unfortunately disadvantaged in the privilege dept, go through!
18/25
In this country, prõpãgãndã about mînorîtîes (esp Muslıms), is usually on an all time high (opportunistic háteful bıgots are always looking to shift the blame for anything onto mînorîtîes by using whatever remotely sticks).
When the "sėcular lîberals" themselves can't...
In this country, prõpãgãndã about mînorîtîes (esp Muslıms), is usually on an all time high (opportunistic háteful bıgots are always looking to shift the blame for anything onto mînorîtîes by using whatever remotely sticks).
When the "sėcular lîberals" themselves can't...
19/25
...accept mînorîtîes for who they are as a ppl; how can hátefilled bıgots be expected to?!
If this is what "sėcular lîberal" means to most ppl who identify as such: it's a 'from the frying pan into the fire' kinda situation for mînorîtîes.
It feels like they have a...
...accept mînorîtîes for who they are as a ppl; how can hátefilled bıgots be expected to?!
If this is what "sėcular lîberal" means to most ppl who identify as such: it's a 'from the frying pan into the fire' kinda situation for mînorîtîes.
It feels like they have a...
20/25
...choice b/w the lesser of two evïls: not b/w good & evïl!
Someone (I think @madeforbrettLEE) said that the "sėcular lîberal's" perspective was too "wėstėrnizėd". But, I disagree. It was more Frėnch. Even there you have "sėcular lîberals" who just can't stand anything...
...choice b/w the lesser of two evïls: not b/w good & evïl!
Someone (I think @madeforbrettLEE) said that the "sėcular lîberal's" perspective was too "wėstėrnizėd". But, I disagree. It was more Frėnch. Even there you have "sėcular lîberals" who just can't stand anything...
21/25
...that has "Muslım/Isłåmic" about it (same justification: claiming that they are "saving" ppl from "relıgıous radıcalızation")!
An Isłåmôphôbė (conscious, closet or otherwise) seeing herself as an "ally" in the fight for the HR of Muslıms, is a very weird flex!
When...
...that has "Muslım/Isłåmic" about it (same justification: claiming that they are "saving" ppl from "relıgıous radıcalızation")!
An Isłåmôphôbė (conscious, closet or otherwise) seeing herself as an "ally" in the fight for the HR of Muslıms, is a very weird flex!
When...
22/25
...you can't even acknowledge the right of a mînorîty to practice their relıgıon, culture, etc.; w/o calling them "radıcals": what "rights" do you really think you're "fighting" for?
What is the basis of the májôrîtárîán sůprėmãcîst movement for "justifying" a denial of...
...you can't even acknowledge the right of a mînorîty to practice their relıgıon, culture, etc.; w/o calling them "radıcals": what "rights" do you really think you're "fighting" for?
What is the basis of the májôrîtárîán sůprėmãcîst movement for "justifying" a denial of...
23/25
...HR to mînorîtîes? It's the same identity of mînorîtîes (esp assertion), that is projected as a form of "radıcalızatıon".
Difference b/w májôrîtárîán sůprėmãcîst háteful bıgots & such "sėcular lîberals" is: former makes no exceptions (when it comes to discrimination)...
...HR to mînorîtîes? It's the same identity of mînorîtîes (esp assertion), that is projected as a form of "radıcalızatıon".
Difference b/w májôrîtárîán sůprėmãcîst háteful bıgots & such "sėcular lîberals" is: former makes no exceptions (when it comes to discrimination)...
24/25
...for anyone associated with a mînorîty identity, while the latter is willing to "allow" a limited assertion of a mînorîty's identity.
End of the day, it's just a form of policing: Good Cop-Bad Cop.
P.S: I used to be a "sėcular lîberal" too. I've come to realize that...
...for anyone associated with a mînorîty identity, while the latter is willing to "allow" a limited assertion of a mînorîty's identity.
End of the day, it's just a form of policing: Good Cop-Bad Cop.
P.S: I used to be a "sėcular lîberal" too. I've come to realize that...
25/25
...such an outlook is fallacious. HR=non negotiable. Freedom of expression needs nuance (take the ramifications of what you express into careful consideration: esp when it's a mårginålized community you're talking of). No question of difference of opinion in such matters.
...such an outlook is fallacious. HR=non negotiable. Freedom of expression needs nuance (take the ramifications of what you express into careful consideration: esp when it's a mårginålized community you're talking of). No question of difference of opinion in such matters.
