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"In MAP Support Chat, a livechat group for people age 13 and up who have a sexual attraction to minors, the aim is to get ahead of abuse by providing peer support and resources to people who may be at-risk."
This is from Prostasia's website.
"In MAP Support Chat, a livechat group for people age 13 and up who have a sexual attraction to minors, the aim is to get ahead of abuse by providing peer support and resources to people who may be at-risk."
This is from Prostasia's website.
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Please note the wording. "getting ahead of abuse" by providing resources to those "at risk"... of offending, apparently. Not those at risk of being abused.
Please note the wording. "getting ahead of abuse" by providing resources to those "at risk"... of offending, apparently. Not those at risk of being abused.
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In case anybody thought this was in ANY WAY me losing my head, exaggerating, or making things up because I have an agenda. https://prostasia.org/event/msc/
In case anybody thought this was in ANY WAY me losing my head, exaggerating, or making things up because I have an agenda. https://prostasia.org/event/msc/
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Fandom people, talk to your friends if they weren't aware of how bad Prostasia is, because I know they got themselves a good reputation within fandom. Leftist friends, I don't care how good NB sounds on other topics. DO NOT SUPPORT HIM IN THIS.
Fandom people, talk to your friends if they weren't aware of how bad Prostasia is, because I know they got themselves a good reputation within fandom. Leftist friends, I don't care how good NB sounds on other topics. DO NOT SUPPORT HIM IN THIS.
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It is, btw, deeply manipulative and another bad sign (if you needed one) that they no longer put MAP stuff on their Twitter, but it's all on their website. Because they know it will lose them support.
It is, btw, deeply manipulative and another bad sign (if you needed one) that they no longer put MAP stuff on their Twitter, but it's all on their website. Because they know it will lose them support.
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Here's another one from their website, about MAPs.
"Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescent children. To the best of our knowledge, it is an unchosen, unchangeable attraction." https://prostasia.org/blog/its-black-and-white/
This is INCORRECT.
Here's another one from their website, about MAPs.
"Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescent children. To the best of our knowledge, it is an unchosen, unchangeable attraction." https://prostasia.org/blog/its-black-and-white/
This is INCORRECT.
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Not only does this run counter to the idea of seeking treatment (and reinforce the issue of MAPs avoiding treatment in the first place), it is not how paraphilia works. Pedophilia, even as given in the DSM, is a paraphilia, not a sexual orientation.
Not only does this run counter to the idea of seeking treatment (and reinforce the issue of MAPs avoiding treatment in the first place), it is not how paraphilia works. Pedophilia, even as given in the DSM, is a paraphilia, not a sexual orientation.
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And, HORRIFICALLY ENOUGH, this conflates being a MAP - a deliberately vague label - with pedophilia, a paraphilia as defined above - with being unchangeable and unfixable.
And they tell this to CHILDREN!
And, HORRIFICALLY ENOUGH, this conflates being a MAP - a deliberately vague label - with pedophilia, a paraphilia as defined above - with being unchangeable and unfixable.
And they tell this to CHILDREN!
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Paraphilias have NEVER been defined as untreatable. Or if they have, that's such an out-of-date definition that you're walking with the dinosaurs. How on earth do you claim to be preventing CSA and then spouting such harmful garbage?
Paraphilias have NEVER been defined as untreatable. Or if they have, that's such an out-of-date definition that you're walking with the dinosaurs. How on earth do you claim to be preventing CSA and then spouting such harmful garbage?
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"For instance, MAPs are more likely to offend when they are left to feel alone and broken. When they do not have community, education, and support, they are more likely to believe when they are told they will offend, so they do."
...But you just said-
"For instance, MAPs are more likely to offend when they are left to feel alone and broken. When they do not have community, education, and support, they are more likely to believe when they are told they will offend, so they do."
...But you just said-
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-You LITERALLY just talked about it being unchangeable. You're literally telling MAPs they might as well offend because they're going to deal with this forever anyway. The support you're offering them is useless.
-You LITERALLY just talked about it being unchangeable. You're literally telling MAPs they might as well offend because they're going to deal with this forever anyway. The support you're offering them is useless.
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People in non-MAP mental health communities offer "MAPs" more help than this.
“We must de-platform all MAPs and Allies—To save the CHILDREN!”
Yes. Because you spout bullshit like this. To children. And say they're MAPs. What are you not getting?
People in non-MAP mental health communities offer "MAPs" more help than this.
“We must de-platform all MAPs and Allies—To save the CHILDREN!”
Yes. Because you spout bullshit like this. To children. And say they're MAPs. What are you not getting?
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"Before you report someone like me who is only trying to do her job, ask: is this really as clear-cut as I think it is? Slow down, take a breath, and consider that the issue may be more complicated than you think it is."
I think I am using more nuance than you.
"Before you report someone like me who is only trying to do her job, ask: is this really as clear-cut as I think it is? Slow down, take a breath, and consider that the issue may be more complicated than you think it is."
I think I am using more nuance than you.
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Let's try this again.
People with attraction(s), however vaguely defined, to minors, are not broken. They aren't broken because there's no form of attraction that needs to be acted on, for one. Sexual attraction isn't suffering.
Let's try this again.
People with attraction(s), however vaguely defined, to minors, are not broken. They aren't broken because there's no form of attraction that needs to be acted on, for one. Sexual attraction isn't suffering.
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Two, they aren't broken, because being mentally ill isn't being broken, and they're not "unfixable" because treatment for trauma, obsession, paraphilia, addiction, and impulse disorders all exist. It can be difficult to ask for treatment. This much is true.
Two, they aren't broken, because being mentally ill isn't being broken, and they're not "unfixable" because treatment for trauma, obsession, paraphilia, addiction, and impulse disorders all exist. It can be difficult to ask for treatment. This much is true.
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Grouping all people with attraction(s) to minors under one umbrella causes more harm than good. You /will/ get bad actors involved and you are giving those bad actors a shield. When you allow minors to identify as MAPs, you are also giving those bad actors access.
Grouping all people with attraction(s) to minors under one umbrella causes more harm than good. You /will/ get bad actors involved and you are giving those bad actors a shield. When you allow minors to identify as MAPs, you are also giving those bad actors access.
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You cannot trust that every single person who actively identifies as a "minor-attracted person" is doing so because they are Looking For Help and not because they are /actually an abuser/. Shockingly, Abusers Still Exist.
You cannot trust that every single person who actively identifies as a "minor-attracted person" is doing so because they are Looking For Help and not because they are /actually an abuser/. Shockingly, Abusers Still Exist.
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It's true that "minors" (people under 18) can be attracted to people significantly younger than them in inappropriate ways. There is no reason not to handle this separately from adults.
It's true that "minors" (people under 18) can be attracted to people significantly younger than them in inappropriate ways. There is no reason not to handle this separately from adults.
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People with bad thoughts aren't broken. I am not going to then put them in situations where not acting on those thoughts is /harder/ and where identifying difficult and/or toxic situations is nigh-impossible.
People with bad thoughts aren't broken. I am not going to then put them in situations where not acting on those thoughts is /harder/ and where identifying difficult and/or toxic situations is nigh-impossible.
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For example, it's considered bad manners to put your friend with a bad history with alcohol in a job at a liquor store. If this is the stance you're taking with MAPs, it's a fucking bad one. Head to toe, beginning to end, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
For example, it's considered bad manners to put your friend with a bad history with alcohol in a job at a liquor store. If this is the stance you're taking with MAPs, it's a fucking bad one. Head to toe, beginning to end, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
