CW: This thread contains spoilers for Season 1 of the @PrimeVideo series #Invincible completed on Friday
@InvincibleHQ and the Anxiety of Interracial Relationships a
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@InvincibleHQ and the Anxiety of Interracial Relationships a

Invincible tackles a lot of topics that would require multiple threads to unpack, but today Iām going after one that Hit for me
Thatās right, Iām talking about Interracial Relationships and the anxieties surrounding them which were expertly showcased and deserve this deep dive
Thatās right, Iām talking about Interracial Relationships and the anxieties surrounding them which were expertly showcased and deserve this deep dive
The IR relationships in this series that Iāll be discussing in no particulars order are:
1. Debbie/Nolan Grayson
2. Amber Bennett/ Mark Grayson
3. Kate Cha/Rex Sloan
4. Eve Wilkins/Rex Sloan/Mark Grayson
#InvincibleOnPrime #interracialrelationships #interracialromance
1. Debbie/Nolan Grayson
2. Amber Bennett/ Mark Grayson
3. Kate Cha/Rex Sloan
4. Eve Wilkins/Rex Sloan/Mark Grayson
#InvincibleOnPrime #interracialrelationships #interracialromance
To begin I have a question for the creators of @InvincibleHQ :
Is Kateās lack of characterization and story arc in comparison to her cohorts done with intent?
By that I mean is her immediate sexualization and then push back to a background character in the narrative symbolic?
Is Kateās lack of characterization and story arc in comparison to her cohorts done with intent?
By that I mean is her immediate sexualization and then push back to a background character in the narrative symbolic?
Like were yāall making commentary on how Asian women are hypersexualized and silenced in popular (superhero) media like Amazonās other series @TheBoysTV which ignited #TheSilencingOfTheShrew as a trope being created and discussions of better Asian Representation in Media? https://twitter.com/faatithestreet/status/1302297317656219649
Iām asking this question fully in Good Faith, because Iām aware that Academy Nominated @steveyeun and the Incomparable @IamSandraOh are both leads in this series
Iām Not calling yāall out, Iām wondering if this particular characterization of Kate voiced by #MaleseJow was Meta?
Iām Not calling yāall out, Iām wondering if this particular characterization of Kate voiced by #MaleseJow was Meta?
As in Kateās depiction amongst her fellow heroes on her team is representative of How sheās viewed by the team
Essential and useful almost to the point of objectification?
How many Asian women are treated in Society overall in fact
She serves the purpose she serves and then?
Essential and useful almost to the point of objectification?
How many Asian women are treated in Society overall in fact
She serves the purpose she serves and then?
Kateās Interracial Relationship in this series casts a bright light on the Hypersexualization of Asian women in a way that I feel deserves deeper exploration
and this series explores this narrative more fully byway of Debbieās relationship with Nolan, weāll get there though
and this series explores this narrative more fully byway of Debbieās relationship with Nolan, weāll get there though
Note how in this scene Kate is both lied to and Used by Rex
Rex even goes so far as to say Right In Front of Her that it meant nothing and doesnāt count because her duplications (an extension of herself via her powers) Arenāt really even her
He tosses her aside SO quickly
Rex even goes so far as to say Right In Front of Her that it meant nothing and doesnāt count because her duplications (an extension of herself via her powers) Arenāt really even her
He tosses her aside SO quickly
and her Friend, Atom Eve, tosses her aside too
The anxiety of interracial dating:
Will I be an object if I pursue someone Iām interested in that used to date my friend?
Will I be lied to and held accountable to His lies?
Will I lose Both my friends?
The anxiety of interracial dating:
Will I be an object if I pursue someone Iām interested in that used to date my friend?
Will I be lied to and held accountable to His lies?
Will I lose Both my friends?
The Anxiety of Interracial Relationships and the unfair comparison between Women of Color and their white Counterparts
Iām new to this fandom, but Iām not NEW to fandoms and Iāve already seen the discourse and hatred of Amber Bennett voiced by talented actress Zazie Beetz
hmm
Iām new to this fandom, but Iām not NEW to fandoms and Iāve already seen the discourse and hatred of Amber Bennett voiced by talented actress Zazie Beetz

I wonder what it could BE about her that folks HATE so much
Itās probably that she utilizes an out of regulation ladle pouring technique when she feeds people in her community in need
Itās probably that she utilizes an out of regulation ladle pouring technique when she feeds people in her community in need
You know what it Probably is
What it Actually is?
Amber, the total fool, expects her boyfriend to be Honest with her and to Treat her with Respect
Doesnāt she know sheās a Black woman? Ah the naĆÆvetĆ© of youth
Seriously though, Iāve seen the series and yall Amber haters are
What it Actually is?
Amber, the total fool, expects her boyfriend to be Honest with her and to Treat her with Respect
Doesnāt she know sheās a Black woman? Ah the naĆÆvetĆ© of youth
Seriously though, Iāve seen the series and yall Amber haters are
I noted seeing folks hating on Amber prior to watching the series yesterday so I kept my eye out for any shady behavior of hers
I also didnāt say anything to my husband while we watched the series to see if I could get his take too
Heās a white man AND a nerd and his take was
I also didnāt say anything to my husband while we watched the series to see if I could get his take too
Heās a white man AND a nerd and his take was
The thing is Amber IS a normal person with normal expectations
But when a Black femme has normal expectations by merit of our being Black and Femme those expectations are seen as ridiculously unfair
The Anxiety of Dating as a Black femme: Will they see me as a person?
But when a Black femme has normal expectations by merit of our being Black and Femme those expectations are seen as ridiculously unfair
The Anxiety of Dating as a Black femme: Will they see me as a person?
The way that Amber is viewed by the Fandom is reflective of how
BLACK FEMMES are seen by society at large
I applaud this series for having Amber Bennett not only voiced by a Brilliant Black woman, Zazie Beetz, but also portrayed as a dark skinned Black teenaged girl with an Afro
BLACK FEMMES are seen by society at large
I applaud this series for having Amber Bennett not only voiced by a Brilliant Black woman, Zazie Beetz, but also portrayed as a dark skinned Black teenaged girl with an Afro
This Forces the audience to reckon with their own biases and misogynoir internalized or otherwise
To see their relationship play out and come to the conclusion that Amber is Toxic for not forgiving him for the fifty eleventh time of stepping on her boundaries is just sickening
To see their relationship play out and come to the conclusion that Amber is Toxic for not forgiving him for the fifty eleventh time of stepping on her boundaries is just sickening
Am I saying Amberās and Markās relationship is perfect? No
Am I saying Amberās just an innocent kid trying to understand her super powered boyfriendās constant lying and bailing on her? YES
Theyāre teenagers and even Markās own best-friend got Real with him and told him:
Am I saying Amberās just an innocent kid trying to understand her super powered boyfriendās constant lying and bailing on her? YES
Theyāre teenagers and even Markās own best-friend got Real with him and told him:
Amberās hatred in the Fandom and mistreatment by her boyfriend Mark within the series come from the same place actually
A distancing of self from your actions regarding Femmes and Women of Color and is represented also by Debbie x Nolanās dynamic
Yāall:
A distancing of self from your actions regarding Femmes and Women of Color and is represented also by Debbie x Nolanās dynamic
Yāall:
Which brings us to the most unsettling representation of Interracial Relationships Iāve ever seen in media
Unsettling because of how darkly real it is for many people in current and former IR relationships
The anxiety of marrying a white person: Are they secretly a Nazi?
Unsettling because of how darkly real it is for many people in current and former IR relationships
The anxiety of marrying a white person: Are they secretly a Nazi?
I bet white people who date and marry People of Color donāt think about this anxiety much comforted by the fact that youāre Not a Nazi
Because you donāt believe in Eugenics you just think people should be tested before they have kids
Youāre not a racist youāre Dating a ____.
Because you donāt believe in Eugenics you just think people should be tested before they have kids
Youāre not a racist youāre Dating a ____.
Meanwhile those of us IN IR Marriages with white people who are watching this show?
Yeah for us this scene with Mark and Debbie hit different
The Anxiety of Having Biracial Children with Colonizers: Will they be like Us or like Them and is this feeling of Anxiety over it Okay?
Yeah for us this scene with Mark and Debbie hit different
The Anxiety of Having Biracial Children with Colonizers: Will they be like Us or like Them and is this feeling of Anxiety over it Okay?
Yeah this show devastated us all with that train scene
Having a Metaphor for a Nazi brutalize countless people using a train was QUITE the artistic decision
So why was it this line that stuck with me and hurt the most? :
Having a Metaphor for a Nazi brutalize countless people using a train was QUITE the artistic decision
So why was it this line that stuck with me and hurt the most? :
It shook me
Thereās tons of memes and reactions all across the internet to this one line
But I want to really take a stab at why this one hurt
Because this visualized the single greatest fear and anxiety that comes with relationships (any and all) relationships with white ppl
Thereās tons of memes and reactions all across the internet to this one line
But I want to really take a stab at why this one hurt
Because this visualized the single greatest fear and anxiety that comes with relationships (any and all) relationships with white ppl
This series is amazing and incredible and the gratuitous violence therein doesnāt feel gratuitous though IT IS
in some places
It feels like a metaphor
For the lakes and rivers of blood thatās shed for Great white men to be Great itās a metaphor For US
For what it takes to be:
in some places
It feels like a metaphor
For the lakes and rivers of blood thatās shed for Great white men to be Great itās a metaphor For US
For what it takes to be:
The #Invincible Thread on Interracial Relationships Part Deux Yāall Hear Me
Before Mark has powers he does something brave and to some viewers āstupidā he stands up to this bully
He stands up to this bully in defense of Amber (this is part of why this action is seen as stupid)
He stands up to a bully and gets physically hurt for a Black Femme
He stands up to this bully in defense of Amber (this is part of why this action is seen as stupid)
He stands up to a bully and gets physically hurt for a Black Femme
Malcolm X said this quote 60 years ago and itās meaning is still clear and itās still accurate
āThe most vulnerable person in America is the Black woman, the most unprotected person in America is the Black womanā
His insistence upon standing up for her is what wins her heart
āThe most vulnerable person in America is the Black woman, the most unprotected person in America is the Black womanā
His insistence upon standing up for her is what wins her heart
The thing that Breaks her heart
is his doing and showing the Opposite of this action thatās the foundation of their relationship
Lying to her, distrusting her, stringing her along, making promises he Knows he canāt keep: Listening to his Father

Lying to her, distrusting her, stringing her along, making promises he Knows he canāt keep: Listening to his Father
The fact that Amber comes to his house
to Be There for Him after everything thatās happened shows the kind of person She is
Sheās incredibly caring, and yet the fan base hungered for Mark to slam the door in her face
Why?

Sheās incredibly caring, and yet the fan base hungered for Mark to slam the door in her face
Why?
āIs this thread about Interracial Relationships in #Invincible or your chance to hate on Mark?ā
Whoās hating on Mark?
Holding the young man accountable for his actions is Exactly how we keep him from becoming his father
Were we watching the same show?
His fatherās influence:
Whoās hating on Mark?
Holding the young man accountable for his actions is Exactly how we keep him from becoming his father
Were we watching the same show?
His fatherās influence:
Markās mother Debbie is literally the Hero of the show
Without her influence Nolan āOmniManā Grayson wouldāve committed horrific atrocities ages ago
Aww isnāt that sweet?
No, itās not, my heart breaks for Debbie who loved with her whole heart and stood up to a tyrant, a god
Without her influence Nolan āOmniManā Grayson wouldāve committed horrific atrocities ages ago
Aww isnāt that sweet?
No, itās not, my heart breaks for Debbie who loved with her whole heart and stood up to a tyrant, a god
The thing that hit me hardest about herās and Nolanās relationship was this scene where she literally taught him the value of humanity
It triggered memories of former white partners and having to Debate my own humanity with them
Itās unsettling and dark and Real
Sandra Oh-wow
It triggered memories of former white partners and having to Debate my own humanity with them
Itās unsettling and dark and Real
Sandra Oh-wow
The show is also the wildest metaphor for biracial identity crisis Iāve ever seen
Mark struggles with his identity and isnāt helped by his father who increasingly pushes him towards elitist thought
In the end Mark is like his mother and loves his father and Thatās why heās:
Mark struggles with his identity and isnāt helped by his father who increasingly pushes him towards elitist thought
In the end Mark is like his mother and loves his father and Thatās why heās:
He literally responds to his dad beating him bloody asking him who will be there for him in 500 years with āYouā and it shatters the man and makes him fly off world
He ran away!
He was so ashamed of himself for Feeling
that he RAN
He ran away!
He was so ashamed of himself for Feeling

Mark makes small mistakes
well big mistakes he is super powered and Did break an old lady on accident
But Markās mistakes are ones he can come back from
Heās aware that he HAS a choice in a way that his father isnāt, and Iām a big fan of the kid for that reason your choices:
well big mistakes he is super powered and Did break an old lady on accident
But Markās mistakes are ones he can come back from
Heās aware that he HAS a choice in a way that his father isnāt, and Iām a big fan of the kid for that reason your choices:
Can I just gush for a second that some of my favorite Actors of Color participated in this show?
This is one of the most important pieces of Super Hero commentary Iāve ever seen and Iām so proud that these amazing Actors were in it:
This is one of the most important pieces of Super Hero commentary Iāve ever seen and Iām so proud that these amazing Actors were in it:
And finally a shoutout to Zehra Fazal because Iām a fan of Talia from the Animated Batman films and Iām a Friend of Mara IYKYK
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Iām gonna go play Resident Evil 5 with my husband: a Very Problematic game about an Interracial (couple?) https://ko-fi.com/faatithestreet



Iām gonna go play Resident Evil 5 with my husband: a Very Problematic game about an Interracial (couple?) https://ko-fi.com/faatithestreet