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dany antis loving other targs are so strange when she’s the embodiment of a true targaryen

lady stoneheart is unnecessary and one of the stupidest storylines

martells are overrated

faegon is joffrey's blackfyre version

arianne is annoying and not very bright. she's going to get herself killed and tbh i can't wait

martells are entertaining and interesting but their fans

starks are ugly as fuck

margaery is not the manipulative mastermind ppl make her out to be, but she’s just a pawn and a child trying to do the best she can in whatever her family demands of her

Baratheons should and will go extinct

tully coochie smell like a fish market

whether you like the idea or despise it, sansan will very likely end up being canon

jaime is as much of a narcissist as cersei, he doesn’t really care about people as much as he does about looking good for an audience and being worshipped for doing the bare minimum

The coin quote is some throwaway nonsense and people cling to it way too much

most of the fandom is boring and only like equally boring and uninteresting characters characters don’t have to be saints who never did anything wrong to be heroes or good people or protagonists.

Every chapter about The Iron Islands was so boring

rhaegar is not that interesting people only stan him because haters are rabid

Cersei and Jaime are the only good POVs in AFFC. Without them that book is a flop.

Rhaegar should have overthrown his father before going with Lyanna. As king, he would have more authority to dissolve her bethrotal and means to avoid a war if he took her as her wife

Faegon is gonna end up being one of the three heads of the dragon, even as a blackfyre.

The artists and fanarts SUSTAIN this fandom

Rhaegar was a very stupid person. I understand setting Elia aside could start a war with Dorne, but running away in secret with Lyanna started a war too.

The White Walkers and Jon’s journey storyline was SO BORING in the tv show and didn’t make ANY justice to the books

Martells are not poc. They're as white as everyone in westeros

Dany has more connections to rheagar than Jon ever did in the books and the show was sexist to give all those moments to Jon and wipe rhegars importance from Danys story arc

jonerys are jonsa are both crackships, the only canon ship is jonrya

Ned and cat failed in their daughters education.

Catelyn stark is a horrible person

Brandon stark was an Idiot

Viserra deserved better parents, and better siblings

The Stark as a house is not honourable, NED is honourable bc he was raised by Jon Arryn who's house words are literally As High as Honor, and he teaches his children to be as well

dornish architecture and cuisine have more in common with islamic cultures than dornish characters themselves could lady nym wear a see through dress in moorish spain? astaghfirullah

Muslims and dornish are NOTHING ALIKE, when are people going to understand it

dany is the lord of light

I hate when people say that it’s Jon Targaryen side showing when he gets violent and shit, like you know it could be his wolf blood. Like Brandon Stark almost beat little finger to death, because of the whole catelyn hand thing.

tyrion in the show:
tyrion in the books:

we need to give theon stark the mad king treatment, he was war hungry, murdered thousands of innocent people, burned down so many villages and displayed the spiked heads of his victims along his coastline, he was batshit crazy, hungry wolf... my ass, he’s a mad king

If i have to see "dragons plant no trees" used as conclusive evidence of dany being evil/a tyrant/destructive character one more time-

i hate it when targ antis call catelyn's treatment of jon as pacifying his "targaryen" side and ensuring he doesn't turn out mad like "all" the targaryens. i can't make this up

the way stark stans talk about the north, one would think it’s paradise when in reality the first men were pushed back to the north by the andal invaders like who would willingly freeze their asses off and eat snow anyway?

stop the catelyn stark slander please she was a good woman who paved the way for women everywhere

i really believe aerys and joanna had sex. and joanna is not as good as people think she is.

daenerys and myrcella would be great friends

People that compare asoiaf and its characters to every run of the mill ya series need to stop

all this hate going to catelyn but maybe jon just had bad vibes as a baby and she chose peace over toxicity?

dany and faegon are going to get married and have 2829838282 children, it is known

Book!daensa would be a serve

We should consider the possibility of dany being literally reborn in the fire more

jaime and cersei wouldn't bang each other if they weren't twins

Rhaegar was way too old to be running away with a fifteen year old (15!!!!!) he caused the Targaryen downfall as much as aerys did
Also a lot of jon fans are in for a surprise when it turns out that he wasn’t a king (or prince) all long he is just a royal bastard

i fucking hate cersei so much but also i can't deny that she is very very very sexy

jaehaerys is to blame for starting the dance. he should've died sooner .

Why wouldn’t we put the blame on Rhaegar when the only reason Brandon went south was because he took his sister ?

You'd think with this fandom's agenda to woobiefy all characters who died a painful death, more people would talk about Viserys son of Aenys. But I guess he is not a woman

targaryen/lannister marriage would have been exquisite

idk why people think saying bad things abt rhaegar is an unpopular opinion so heres a real unpopular opinion: he did nothing wrong in his life his only crime was being too sexy

Rhaegar disposing of Aerys would have set a dangerous precedent for sons removing their fathers. Even Daeron had to wait out until Aegon IV kicked the bucket, there's no way anyone would cheer in on Rhaegar for doing it

ned stark was truly a good father

none of this would’ve happened if catelyn hadn’t kidnapped tyrion

Daenerys fits the Azor Ahai prophecy better than anyone else in ASOIAF

dany is honestly one of the most popular underrated characters ever — people keep repeating the same old topics over and over again while 95% of her storyline, character arc and prophecies are ignored

Stannis is a joke, he’s not the rightful king or azor ahai r’hllor dun know him, he is a shit commander (how u lose to tyrion) and homophobic (used het sex to kill gay brother) his stans can keep yellin in their incel forums their flop fav we’ll still die having achieved nothing

Jon and satin have more chemistry then jon and ygritte

brandon is a himbo i don’t blame him its not his fault! hes innocent!

Harry and Sansa could be a great ship YALL ARE JUST OBSESSED WITH HER IN PAIN OR FUCKING MEN OLDER THAN HER WHEN SHE DESERVES A NICE MAN THATS NOT HER BROTHER OR ABUSER!

The hold grrm has on this fandom is insane i would do anything for twow and ados

I just wanna say fuck viserys II for usurping his niece and spitting on his mothers memory

i think one of the reasons why i am desperate for twow, is so that we can go back to discussing the actual book characters and hopefully s*nsa stans will go back to discussing tourneys, dresses and lemon cakes

daenerys is bicurious cersei is bisexual

i think most of dany stans didnt hate sansa but they started to hate her because of her fans. we can love both of them.

Most annoying thing about the fan base is how they insist on shipping sansa with anyone

I ship Jon and Theon bc they are narrative foils and that’s really sexy

Daemon Blackfyre was rightfull king , bittersteel was right! Fuck that simp daeron fuck the dornish and fuck bloodraven as a staff nd record label

I want Aegon to be real solely bc everybody acts like it’s fact and I wanna watch the world burn !

if fAegon is a targ (which he probably isnt), i could see him actually being "mad" or just going crazy...

Tumblr has THE worst takes on asoiaf ive ever seen they need some pest control idk

Viserys I is to blame for the dance. He named rhaenyra his heir out of despise for the “heir for a day” thing. He never did anything to truly secure her claim to the throne and he even REMARRIED to have more kids, he even SAW the tensions between blacks and greens AND DID NOTHING

and respecting to my last take on Viserys not doing anything to blacks and greens, No making Rhaenyra and Alicent kiss each other was not a solution

jaime/brienne stans are just as annoying as jonsas and hugely exaggerate brienne’s importance

house dayne is overrated af thank fuck two of them are dead

CAN GRRM DESIGN A FULL GLOBE MAP PLEASE I KNOW IT’S GOING TO BE IRRELEVANT IN THE STORY BUT I FEEL ANXIOUS FOR NOT GETTING TO KNOW HOW BIG ULTHOS IS OR WERE ESSOS ENDS

i don’t think cersei was intended to be bisexual because she didn’t enjoy sleeping with taena, george just gets off on fetishising

jaehaerys was a good king but he was a shit father, a shit grandfather, a shit husband, just a shit family man in general

I ship Arya and Sansa bc they are narrative foils and that’s really sexy

dany will end up on the iron throne, jon as her consort. She will have children and AFTER that she will make an heroic sacrifice to fulfill both azor ahai and tptwp profecies

I am really not bothered by the idea of dany and jon possible ending up married. I mean, aemon and jocelyn married for love, and they were aunt and nephew, same for daemon and rhaenyra, just the opposite.

Br*ime fandom has some of the most insane people in this fandom...they make jonsas look good

people hate dany just because she is a targ, but she is ‘good’ because this fandom has the stereotype that evil dragonlord conquer indefense kingdom

i wish nothing but bad things on house martell, wallahi i can't wait for their time to come, daenerys voodoo is real!

the arryns are the most underrated house

i hate book!jygritte with a passion and side eye anyone who ships it like shes literally the female version of drogo???

hotd and got are nothing but headcanons ; hcs of the showrunners on how the characters, the story, everything would look like and play out.

Cregan Stark was right in his approach to the Greens!

Jaehaerys wasn’t even a good king, barth and alysanne hard carried the only reason he gets called the wise is cuz his predecessor is fuckin maegor with a concussion All he did was threaten to burn the stormlands, obsess over roads, and slowly turn into incest loving ben shapiro

Tbh i would really like an animated adaption of asoiaf that sticks entirely to the books. I think it would be the most approptiate medium to show the magic, the setting and the inner thoughts of the characters

book!sansa is a flawed and grey character (just like everyone else) but the show whitewashed her and erased all of her negative characteristics (and gave arya some she never had), she no longer bullied arya, we don’t see her distaste for the smallfolk or mistreatment of robyn etc

though it is true that alysanne and barth did a lot, like a lot in the reign of jaehaerys i don’t agree that he wasn’t a good king

the theorist overanalysing every damn word only to come up with fdany or targ!tyrion or whatever garbage they’re cooking over there in r/asoiaf is cuz of grrm slow ass heck those damn mad queen theories took root cuz we havent seen a chapter with a hydrated dany in 10 damn years

i feel like they whitewashed every character on got aside from dany, arya, bran, ellaria, the sand snakes and maybe edmure

I judge people on how likely they think it ia for snowstorm to be canon cause if they cant understand obvious foreshadowing then i know i dont wanna hear their opinions

cersei (gaslight) catelyn (gatekeep) dany (girlboss) i love 3 milfs

i can't stand the starks and greyjoys, their mustiness be ruining my mood, like the stench....

i think it’s made pretty clear in the books that ppl who believe in prophecies aren’t inherently bad, it only becomes a problem and morally questionable when they start sacrificing innocent ppl (azor ahai,mirri maz duur, melisandre and stannis) so it's v weird to see asoiaf stan-

-talk shit about rhaegar while praising azor ahai (who stabbed his wife to death) and defending mirri (who committed infanticide and brutalized a 14 year old girl)

The fandom is very hypocritical when it comes to daenerys and the Targaryen house. They did everything the other houses did in an medieval concept and are the only ones judged. The other houses did even worse compared to the 300 years of the dragon dynasty-

-Targ are not saints but they are far from the devils that haters and locals talk about.

visenya and sharra fucked

rhaegar and lyanna are to blame for the rebellion as much as catelyn for the war of five kings

jonsas stealing jonrya foreshadowing to support their crackship is making me want to ship jonrya out of spite

Dany & Sansa stans should team up to drag people who ship them with Jorah, Tyrion, Drogo, Hound, LF etc They are just children who deserve better than all the men grrm has written in their arcs so far

Jon snow is ugly and boring

I love Cersei as a character but some of her stans are wicked hypocrites. If you stan a character who commited a murder as a teen I don't want to hear your opinions on Targ madness and obsession

Why do some Martell stans think Oberyn was this great feminist? He never seens to care for women other than his family. He slapped Obara's mom and mocked her for crying when he came to take her daughter away. I like him and would def let him raw me, but I don't deny the truth

Some people saying Rhaegar wouldn't have fallen for Lyanna if he had married Cersei... Y'all delusional. If anything, he would have fallen for Lyanna even harder.

Daemon Targaryen was the hottest dilf in Westeros and I hate that they want us to stare at that Matt fella and pretend like he is supposed to be the daddiest daddy that has ever lived

Rhaenyra was the rightful Queen, all of the Greens deserved what they got, some should have died more painfully than they really did

The Princess of Dorne was stupid to put her daughter anywhere near Aerys just because she wanted Elia to be Queen

yall are mad at rhaegar just because he didnt run away with you

Why would the Princess of Dorne send Elia, who the maesters said was rather fragile, to a family ruled by a madman that was in desperate need of heirs? Did she care so little for her daughter?

A truly controversial take: I feel bad Androw Farman. What he did was terrible but Rhaena treated him poorly, there was no good guy in that marriage. Rhaena still deserved better tho

Greyjoys produced more assholes and insane people than Targaryens ever did and nobody is talking about it

Naerys is one of the most boring female Targaryens

Some Rhaegar antis act as if they were personally attacked by him running away with Lyanna... Did your husbands leave you for a younger woman? Lmao with that nasty personality of yours, I wouldn't blame them

daenerys sees power as a burden and a family's dream, she has no reason to hate faegon or want to make him war

rhaegar praise and rhaegar hate are both excessive. his haters barely use textual evidence to justify their hate while those who love him can be extremely hypocritical at times and refuse to acknowledge his wrongdoings

brienne is not the interesting character her stans think she is and that’s fine not everyone can be cersei

Daenerys antis talk more about her then we do, that's fan behaviour

Sansa and Dany stans fighting every other day puts a big smile on Dumb and Dumber’s faces.

stannis is boring and i’m genuinely confused as to why he has such a large fanbase

I've never understood why sansa is considered the most unjustly hated character by the fans for her "girliness" when its usually the opposite.

i want to think baela died childbed or earlier than expected because i can’t forgive seawhore alyn for cheating on her with elaena if baela was still alive

Anyone who headcanons the visenya theory so hard, just dislikes lyanna’s and rhaegar’s relationship, the fact that they truly loved each other and love was the one that made them run away

jon's looks are never mentioned in any context, positive or negative, so hes probably average looking

d&d are disgusting but they aren’t to blame for this “fan war” between dany and sansa stans, sansa stans have been obsessively hating on arya, bran (and dany) since long before the show even started, the 50+ year old karens on tumblr and other forums are to blame

Tbh i wish the show never happened simply bc it needlessly complicates discourse abt the books and creates a lot of harmful misconceptions

Tbh i wish the show never happened simply bc it needlessly complicates discourse abt the books and creates a lot of harmful misconceptions

tw // rape

Rhaego dying wasn't a bad thing because he was a product of rape.

if i was a divorce lawyer and had to defend rhaegar i would simply claim he's too sexy to do anything wrong ever and the courtroom would clap and the judge would grant him full custody of the children and elia would be going to prison idc

funniest part of the books is the fact ned stark canonically knocked down a huge stone tower by himself while howland watched

the fans obsessed with realpolitiks need to grasp that this is a high fantasy story like damn craig no one cares about the socio-economic ramifications of abolishing slavery in fictional Carthage it’s just a plot to show that the 15 year old dragon girl has empathy

benjen should have inherited winterfell

maegor was right

The wrong man walked from the Trident but also the wrong people survived Summerhall

to those hating on my girl dany, do YOU have the empathy the convections and the charisma to effect changes on issues you care about? are YOU big brained enough to lead a state to an economic boom while being sabotaged internally and externally by its elites? can any of ur favs?

Mirri maz duur was ultimately a villanous character no matter how tragic her motivations and what she did to dany and rhaego was just horrible.

Forget the tumblr fandom quora has the worst takes

jon was such a brat in agot, first he bullied the other nw boys and was oblivious to his own privilege and then he wished for the whole wall to come down just because he was made a steward instead of a ranger smh

i HATE HATE HATE that hoe jaime lannister. i hope he doesn’t die though, he lives a pathetic existence and putting him out of his misery would be doing him a favor

can these people defend rhaegar and lyanna WITHOUT mentioning elia? she did literally nothing wrong; the three of them were good leave them alone

that scene where briennes cheek was bitten off by some freak was the most disgusting chapter in the whole series i still feel unwell just thinking about it

on the one hand, i would like sansa to stay single at the end of the series because it shows that she doesn’t need any “prince” to be happy. but on the other hand, i think she should have an ICONIC ship with a sweet guy that actually loves and respects her

People are all about discussing morality in asoiaf until it comes to characters they have already established as good and honorable

Tyrion was never a good person, grrm just wanted to trick us to believe that. Even Ghost grunting at him and the direwolfs can sense if a person is bad. He did awful things but a lot of fans seems to forget them.

honestly i dont even remember jon's death in the books, the whole chapter felt rushed, i felt nothing when he died

The problem with insisting the martells are poc is that ppl use it to add other layers to the story that dont exist AND forget to criticise george for his lack of representation

i honestly do not understand why everyone hates daario. i believe that he is loyal to her and he cares for her in his own way (he does not love her though) also he's right about most things

Visenya did not hate Aenys because he was “Aegon and Rhaenys love’s product”, besides it being canon that Visenya loved Rhaenys as her sister, Visenya hated him because unlike his father and mother he was weak as-

-a king, and he was letting what she and her siblings fought to bring together fall apart

The only thing the tv show made better than the books was the looks of daario naharis; my girl dany deserves a fine as wine dilf

Dany's worst decision was taking daario as a lover, my girl down bad

People praise Bobby but will, and quoted from YouTube Comment section “never forgive Rhaegar”. Hello??? Bobby stood over those same innocent children and did absolutely nothing, ugh

words cannot the pain it feels that aegon and rhaenys will never know Jon and vice versa

and thus this thread is over! thanks for traumatizing me for life with your asoiaf opinions