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#408Gifs "Legends of Yesterday"
Warning: I'm going to defend Felicity Megan Smoak with my entire chest, because what happened in this ep was the single worst decision the writers put on Oliver. So my issue is more with them than with Oliver. But we have to get through it!
Warning: I'm going to defend Felicity Megan Smoak with my entire chest, because what happened in this ep was the single worst decision the writers put on Oliver. So my issue is more with them than with Oliver. But we have to get through it!
I understood that reference.
The gaping hole in the roof probably didn't help.
Even funnier because we just finished a "Malcolm keeps finding a way into the bunker" running gag the episode before.
Even funnier because we just finished a "Malcolm keeps finding a way into the bunker" running gag the episode before.
Always important to be factual when insulting others.
That time Olicity loosely posed as American Gothic.
When even your casual joke turns into a key component to defeat the mystical bad guy.
MY COUPLE IS SO CUTE.
Get OVER it, Larry.
Oliver. You're dating a ridiculously smart and observant woman. This convo isn't over.
Avoidance is a bad idea. Never works.
As my favorite librarian once said: "Once more you’ve managed to boil a complex thought down to its simplest possible form."
The meta, it burns.
(One of my favorite xover lines.)
(One of my favorite xover lines.)
I'm not going to praise much in this ep, but this? PERFECT. This is exactly what he should have said to have a little time to find out what's going on. I'm fine with this, because it's a big thing and he's not 100% sure about it.
And see? Felicity responds perfectly. This is good couple stuff. She understands that he's got things going on, she's not mad, she gets it. This was a well-written Olicity exchange, which is why what happens later is even more frustrating.
She's obviously concerned, but she trusts him. But then the writers decide to smoke crack and make really bad decisions. Look. They're just emotionally compromised dummies in love, okay? LEAVE THEM ALONE.
*takes notes for a dumb coincidence later*
Bless Stephen for making me care so much about Oliver's feelings here.
same
I AM NOT, BARRY. I AM NOT.
Yeah, that always ends well.
This is where everything diverges in this timeline, but they never explain why she doesn't hunt him down in the new timeline. *cisco gif*
The best reason.
I would normally rag on Barry for being so weak, but I'd break immediately for her, too.
I wish anyone loved me enough to memorize my DNA sequence.
When someone asks Prince Charles if he has any children.
I'm going to say this once. I fully support mothers protecting their children in real life. But I'm not commenting on real life for the rest of this thread, I'm commenting on a non-fictional character whose decision I take issue with because it's a dumb, fictional world.
Gee, she sounds a lot like Moira here, the woman that Samantha KNEW she didn't want around William.
This. Breaks. My. Heart.
Uh oh. Here I go.
To be perfectly clear about my problems here - I'm not against breaking up couples (temporarily) in general. While I agree that productions don't give "happy couples" enough credit, I *do* think interesting and good stories can sometimes come out of breakups if done well.
So if that's what they felt they needed to do, whether due to pressure from on high (likely) or because they thought it would yield more storylines, then that's fine. I'm not mad about the decision. What I didn't like was how they went about it.
Let's start with Samantha. She didn't want William involved in Oliver's "world" (the world that she acknowledges is very different now), and as soon as Moira offered that money to her, she knew she wanted to stay far away from it.
Understandable and fair to an extent, Moira can be scary. But the minute S found out Moira died, she should have gone to Oliver immediately. At the very least. But fear probably made that decision for her. Ya know, I can let all that go. I respect a mother wanting to protect.
But what she's doing here is over-reacting without knowing more about the situation at all. She knows general things about Oliver, that he's turned his life around, that he's running for Mayor, so why not examine that more and THEN make a decision on what to do?
Instead, she issues this impossible demand on him, basically using William as leverage to do what she wants. Why? Is she still afraid of his world? No, she said she knows he's doing great now. So.. she's afraid of losing custody? We have a winner.
But adults deal with this all the time. Take it slow, allow weekend visits, compromise, something! All or nothing is absolutely ridiculous. And let's be fair, no matter how much I can respect a mother wanting to protect, she's in THIS situation because of her choices.
And now she's scared about what she's done, willing to keep William away from his father forever (?), and her decision is smacking her in the face. Scared or not, Oliver has a right to know his son. So she bends a little, and issues an ultimatum.
Oliver hates this, he doesn't WANT to keep this from Felicity, and I love that. But he still does because he feels he has no choice. And Felicity haters using S's motherly rights as their argument against Felicity are pathetic, because it's a weak-ass argument to begin with.
There isn't a single person on this whole damn globe that can convince me that if Oliver left this house and told Felicity everything, including Samantha's *threat*, that she wouldn't move hell and earth to ensure that nobody ever found out. She would. For Oliver. For William.
People using this argument that S was holding this over his head, so OF COURSE he couldn't tell Felicity, are using a poor excuse.. S never would have known that Felicity knew. Instead, Oliver lied to Felicity's face FOR MONTHS traveling back and forth to CC & never told her why.
I interrupt this diatribe to say that this is weirdly hot.
If they want me to swallow Oliver doing this, then I fully and 100% support Felicity breaking up with him (in 415). Fully deserved. How can she marry someone who can't trust her with something so important?
They ramped up Felicity's anger from 0 to 60 to make her the bad guy in this situation and I will always think that's a bad decision. She has her faults, but don't write her as being understanding both before and after this scene and expect THIS makes the same kind of sense.
LOL when she puts it like this, it really is funny. If he had sat down to tell her everything, it likely would have uncomplicated things by 300%.
But the show needed drama/a break up and they had to punch holes in reality to make it work since Olicity was so solid.
But the show needed drama/a break up and they had to punch holes in reality to make it work since Olicity was so solid.
Felicity wasn't upset that he had a kid. It was that Oliver NEVER told her about it while he was pushed to marry her and STILL never told her once Barry, Thea, and Merlyn already knew. WTH!? It was a horribly written story that made NO sense from a character perspective. AT ALL.
It's especially erroneous given how connected and honest they were with each other in the previous 7 episodes AND even earlier in the episode when she was totally understanding. It was like shipper whiplash.
If by world, you mean my keyboard, then yeah.
Speaking of whiplash, I think this is one of the only cogent arguments that Oliver makes in this whole thing. This did all JUST happen, and he does deserve a moment to take it in. But that's why Felicity getting so angry so quickly IS BAD WRITING.
To be fair, he tried to use a cover story with Barry. He's just not very good at that.
Now I keep thinking of alt versions of this where he tells Felicity everything immediately and they work together to run the DNA and it's all team within a team goodness and oh god, I would have LOVED that. sigh.
