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Choker theory (MV and some lyrics) 
josh is a clone (glowing eyes, hurting tyler)
tyler is lost. he has no resources. he steals trash. steals what's most probably is creativity and motivation. support. the feeling of having someone by you.
the ending also makes me ask, did bishops/clones turn real trash into a toy?
tyler is lost. he has no resources. he steals trash. steals what's most probably is creativity and motivation. support. the feeling of having someone by you.
the ending also makes me ask, did bishops/clones turn real trash into a toy?
we have some importance and role of Jim here too. i cant think of that yet. (I'll add to this tweet as i unfold it, i just woke up lmao)
(also josh running, lol i love it)
(also josh running, lol i love it)
tyler was born a choker. i think that refers to feeling like like a burden or distraction, something that suffocates you but you still have it on because you like it. he has "stopped bothering" people.
he has pain. he can get help. he knows he isn't lonely, yet, he feels lonely, as if no one is gonna come for him to rescue him from this loop of escaping DEMA and returning again, because he trusts Josh's face, even though that's merely a clone. but he pushes the pain until his+
skin is screaming. "my skin will scream, reminding me of who i killed inside my dream". he killed clone josh, exhausted of the loop & games, yet, when he wakes up, he's just a toy, gullible to that familiar face again, trusting him again. breaking himself and his own trust again.
he knows that josh is a clone now (from the ending). josh drags tyler like a bishop. (levitate ending). josh never did anything to save tyler (since he's a clone, that was his goal, to bring tyler back to DEMA). so he thinks it's ending now, he knows what to do to escape, yet+
+he's a puppet to josh's familiar face and voice again by the end of the mv. ill keep adding to this thread.
tyler takes trash from josh clone/DEMA. trash is important to DEMA, trash is now with Tyler instead. He's dragged back into dema. i cant see if he has trash in his hands as he's captured, but i think he let trash go so he could come back to help him and other residents of DEMA.
josh clone taking jim is a hint to clones and dema feeding off of lives and creativity. it could also mean that since tyler knows that josh is a clone, they will use jim to gain his trust again by showing that josh has his pet, jim, and therefore is real.
this pain and hopelessness may not end it, it may not be over, but it does get addicting. you start to like feeling that way, it starts to feel 'normal' and anything different, something positive, gets scary. (from personal experience lol). it feels like it's over, you keep +
+ repeating it, thinking "this is my last night alive", yet you wake up and continue, with possibly even more pain.
jim turned into a toy. under Dema's control.
same for tyler.
tyler stole trash (previously under Dema's control, toy) to make him his own, and succeeded, possibly, before being captured and controlled again.
tyler is the biggest statue, aka biggest asset to dema. main fuel.
same for tyler.
tyler stole trash (previously under Dema's control, toy) to make him his own, and succeeded, possibly, before being captured and controlled again.
tyler is the biggest statue, aka biggest asset to dema. main fuel.
tyler is glorified. not like neon gravestones, but like an icon, challenging the residents and clones of dema to be like him and fuel the vialistic city.
"I'm never what i like, I'm double sided, and I just can't lie... i kinda like it when i make you cry... 'cause I'm twisted up, I'm twisted up... inside my mind!"
Tyler feels like he's twisted up. he thinks it's over but it's not. he increases his pain. he returns to clone josh+
Tyler feels like he's twisted up. he thinks it's over but it's not. he increases his pain. he returns to clone josh+
+and dema. (he stopped running, letting clone josh capture him).
stay tuned this will keep on updating, not gonna take my adhd meds today so i can think through properly.
stay tuned this will keep on updating, not gonna take my adhd meds today so i can think through properly.
image comparison @Anathemalolo
also further proof about josh being a clone. nicholas bourbaki is who inspired the character of nico/is nico. clone josh is reading a book by bishop nico. real tyler/josh/walkers/banditøs would not do that.
the song so very different yet so very on brand. it's like we travelled back in time. like old tøp when they were just starting to create this wonderful magic for us to feel through. it reeks of being brave and strong, ploughingnthrough, yet having no hope on the outside.
ALSO!! #twentyonepilots 
#choker #ScaledAndIcy
WHEN TYLER POINTS AT THE TRASH TOY AND JOSH IS DRUMMING.
"no one's coming for me"
Tyler feels as if no one is listening to him. He's unheard. He's alone in his fears and struggles.
(check the whole thread please!)
#choker #ScaledAndIcy WHEN TYLER POINTS AT THE TRASH TOY AND JOSH IS DRUMMING.
"no one's coming for me"
Tyler feels as if no one is listening to him. He's unheard. He's alone in his fears and struggles.
(check the whole thread please!)
He's also drumming because he's a clone, PROGRAMMED to perform, thus ignoring Tyler.
Tyler is being dragged around. He's letting people/DEMA drag him around, use him, exploit his creativity.
"Self-Sabotage is a sweet romance."
Tyler is addicted & in love with hurting himself by trusting clone Josh and being dragged back into Dema because he's just not sure where and how the real Josh is. He surrenders himself over and over again. (stops running to let josh catch him)
Tyler is addicted & in love with hurting himself by trusting clone Josh and being dragged back into Dema because he's just not sure where and how the real Josh is. He surrenders himself over and over again. (stops running to let josh catch him)
Glowing Eyes
Clone Josh(es)
Tyler wnates to leave but he doesn't want to say goodbye to Clone Joshes as they're Josh to him now, not knowing how and where the real Josh is. He wants to sing so the "glowing eyes" aka clone Josh can sing (perform) along.
Clone Josh(es)
Tyler wnates to leave but he doesn't want to say goodbye to Clone Joshes as they're Josh to him now, not knowing how and where the real Josh is. He wants to sing so the "glowing eyes" aka clone Josh can sing (perform) along.
not to mention, Jenna was on the photoshoot set. She had a choker on in her stories. She had a choker on in TIMH mv. I think Choker, to tyler, means "a suffocating burden/distraction/loneliness" that he's addicted to, but the word may have more meanings.
@blurryafce
"im so sorry i forgot you, let me catch you up to speed. I've been tested like the ends of a weathered flag that's by the sea."
"i know it's over, i was born born a choker, nobody's coming for me."
tyler has been weathered and exploited by DEMA to the point that+
"im so sorry i forgot you, let me catch you up to speed. I've been tested like the ends of a weathered flag that's by the sea."
"i know it's over, i was born born a choker, nobody's coming for me."
tyler has been weathered and exploited by DEMA to the point that+
+he feels as though there's nobody and nothing left for or by him. he feels like he's just tiny particles of a chemical, and he needs someone to build him up again, build him a safe space where he can feel like himself and create again, feel safe again, feel like he's loved again
"nobodys coming for me"
Tyler feels like Banditøs wont return to save him ever again. He feels like he's used them enough just to return to Dema again.
Tyler feels like Banditøs wont return to save him ever again. He feels like he's used them enough just to return to Dema again.
@EIGHTWAIT
Trash turned them into a toy/controlled them as puppets under DEMA. or Josh('s clone) turned Trash into a toy/controlled him. Being a Toy here represents being under DEMA's control.
Trash turned them into a toy/controlled them as puppets under DEMA. or Josh('s clone) turned Trash into a toy/controlled him. Being a Toy here represents being under DEMA's control.
