Thing that shouldn't be a hot take but seems like it might be:

Racial separatist movements of the oppressed are not morally equivalent to racial separatist movements meant to further dispossess the oppressed.

Whenever black nationalism is brought up, people correctly point out that black nationalism is not the same as black separatism. This is correct. Black nationalism is an umbrella term used for many movements that seek to foster and develop black unity and empowerment

however, the implicit argument here is that the points of opportunist critics are valid in critiquing the black separatist elements of black nationalism. This is bullshit, and while perhaps well intentioned, also anti-black

A child who is in an abusive environment who decides to strike out on their own, cutting their abusers out of their life, is not in the wrong for not trying to reform their abusers. Similarly, an oppressed people who decide to build their own separatist nation...

cutting themselves off from their oppressors and gaining autonomy, are not in the wrong for not trying to appeal to those oppressors for concessions. Nobody should be forced to plead and beg for their dignity.

However, an abusive household that decides to forcefully remove the abused child from its midst, totally cutting them off, is not at all justified. This household is, for all intents and purposes, a murderer of that child.

Similarly, when an oppressor group decides to remove their victims from their nation, they are engaging in nothing short of genocidal behavior. Unlike the oppressed group which seeks to find an environment free of oppression, the oppressor group seeks a world where...

the complete removal of their victims has been completed. The oppressed seperatist seeks to affirm their humanity and autonomy, the oppressive seperatist seeks to affirm their superiority and deny the oppressed their humanity. These are obviously not the same

So, when black separatists call for their own autonomous nation, they are fundamentally not engaging in the same project as white separatists who seek to further push black people to the margins.

Black people seek separation in the name of autonomy and self determination. Self determination is both the means and ends of that struggle. White separatists seek to confine their victims. There is no autonomy for them to fight for

Hopefully, that makes it clear that the obviously different nature of these movements means it is remarkably anti-black to suggest that they are even remotely the same.

this is one of my more important threads, so I'd appreciate if you spread it around