
Iâve been blocked.
In case blocking #Deaf people isnât a good enough reason as to why Benâs actions are harmful, letâs mention the fact that he has shared incorrect signs in the past, such as this one here for âtiredâ. Heâs also only just started captioning his videos, too.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1363040498647195650?s=20
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1363040498647195650?s=20
I pointed this out to him back in February in the below thread. I implored him to leave the teaching to qualified #Deaf teachers.
He chose to ignore this, and continued to teach as a hearing person. Heâs now chosen to block me, a #Deaf person, too. https://twitter.com/LiamODellUK/status/1363150753683156996
He chose to ignore this, and continued to teach as a hearing person. Heâs now chosen to block me, a #Deaf person, too. https://twitter.com/LiamODellUK/status/1363150753683156996
In fact, Ben posted a response video a week later in which he repeatedly insisted that he was not âtrying to teachâ and that he refutes the accusation that he is being culturally appropriative.
You can watch this with captions below:
You can watch this with captions below:
I updated my previous thread to breakdown his response, which includes pointing out that, well, he has said quite explicitly in the past that he is teaching through his weekly videos: https://twitter.com/liamodelluk/status/1365633725455826944
And even if he is âlearning, not teachingâ, then he is still appropriating British Sign Language as heâs sharing a video online to get views.
In other words, heâs using sign language for clout.
Ben denies this, as you can see below. https://twitter.com/liamodelluk/status/1363162037925384194
In other words, heâs using sign language for clout.
Ben denies this, as you can see below. https://twitter.com/liamodelluk/status/1363162037925384194
His argumentâs flawed though, when you consider the fact that by posting a video to Twitter, you are, naturally, wanting it to be viewed by someone - often, as many people as possible.
If you donât, then why are you sharing it to begin with?
He couldnât answer this question.
If you donât, then why are you sharing it to begin with?
He couldnât answer this question.
Also, letâs not forget that he ends his videos with âgive it a goâ, a clear instruction that reveals that it is not a one-person, progress series, but rather a two-way street where he is encouraging others to follow his lead, when he is completely unqualified to do so.
Just last week I asked @radiographerben why he hadnât stopped, after several #Deaf people - not just me - have told him to because we see it as harmful.
He did not answer this question either.
In fact, just a week later, he would go on to block me from his account. https://twitter.com/liamodelluk/status/1384197074095284225
He did not answer this question either.
In fact, just a week later, he would go on to block me from his account. https://twitter.com/liamodelluk/status/1384197074095284225
And the icing on Benâs culturally appropriative cake came as it was revealed that heâd delivered a session on #deaf awareness and BSL to some uni students.
But I thought you were âlearningâ, Ben? If you are, then surely youâd agree that youâre in no position to teach on this? https://twitter.com/zenorobster/status/1384135374490923020
But I thought you were âlearningâ, Ben? If you are, then surely youâd agree that youâre in no position to teach on this? https://twitter.com/zenorobster/status/1384135374490923020
Just to reiterate, Ă la tweet I posted five days ago: https://twitter.com/liamodelluk/status/1384195908389072906
So please, if you are, unfollow @radiographerben, and donât engage with his #SigningSaturday series, as he clearly does not have the interests of the Deaf community at heart. His decision now to block Deaf people voicing legitimate concerns over his actions cements that. (END)
UPDATE: In response to one person making the extremely important point that Ben is taking up space by teaching BSL as a hearing person, he replies that there âis space aplenty for all on YouTube!â
He really doesnât get it, does he?
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386031160728465411?s=20
He really doesnât get it, does he?
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386031160728465411?s=20
Indeed there is, Ben, but you making âeducationalâ videos about a language which you are not qualified to teach draws attention away from those making videos on BSL who *are* qualified to teach the language - you know, #Deaf people?
The space which @leftinmygrasp refers to here does not concern the opportunity to make such content - as you say, both deaf and hearing people have space to create content on YouTube - but rather the space online for Deaf people to speak on Deaf issues, which youâre barging into.
Itâs about prioritisation. You have hearing privilege, @radiographerben, which could very well mean that your videos can be - and in fact, are - seen more than videos from Deaf people who are qualified to teach sign language.
To use the âspaceâ analogy in a different way: letâs pretend youâre searching âsign language tutorialsâ and your videos are near the top. Regardless of where they sit in the results, theyâre *still* pushing a Deaf creatorâs video further down the page.
Thatâs not right, is it?
Thatâs not right, is it?
Ben, are you really saying âif people listenedâ then theyâd know you are âlearning, not teachingâ? Bit audist.
1. You taught uni students about BSL and deaf awareness.
2. I have tweets from you saying youâre teaching signs.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386037374828875777?s=20
1. You taught uni students about BSL and deaf awareness.
2. I have tweets from you saying youâre teaching signs.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386037374828875777?s=20
It isnât about âapproachâ, Ben, and even if it was, itâs still not working, as many people are telling you tonight. Blocking Deaf people asking you to stop harming their community isnât good either.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386058352841605129?s=20
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386058352841605129?s=20
Saying we âarenât getting itâ when weâre telling you youâre harming our community is gaslighting, Ben, plain and simple.
If a Deaf person is saying youâre causing harm, and you continue by saying theyâve misunderstood you, are starting a pile-on etc., youâre gaslighting.
Stop.
If a Deaf person is saying youâre causing harm, and you continue by saying theyâve misunderstood you, are starting a pile-on etc., youâre gaslighting.
Stop.
Look at No. 9, too, which says that practitioners must âbe able to work appropriately with othersâ.
He blocked me after I told him he was harming the #Deaf community with his actions. If ignorance is his response to legitimate criticism, then thatâs incredibly alarming. https://twitter.com/SpudnPudding/status/1386064581529903107
He blocked me after I told him he was harming the #Deaf community with his actions. If ignorance is his response to legitimate criticism, then thatâs incredibly alarming. https://twitter.com/SpudnPudding/status/1386064581529903107
Morning, Ben. Thanks for this thread, which I will respond to point by point. First and foremost, individuals sending you abusive DMs do not speak for me, and it is completely unacceptable.
As for your comments on professionalism, letâs unpack that.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386205585528524800?s=20
As for your comments on professionalism, letâs unpack that.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386205585528524800?s=20
âWhat I wonât take, however, is my professionalism questioned, or my professional standards quoted at me from an account that doesnât have the personâs full name attached.â
We are well within your rights to question your professional conduct. Hereâs why.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386205586786816000?s=20
We are well within your rights to question your professional conduct. Hereâs why.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386205586786816000?s=20
Ebony puts it perfectly in the below tweet: you gave a talk on BSL and #Deaf awareness as a *hearing person* in a professional capacity - to a group of radiography students, in fact.
We are completely right to question the impact that this could have on future Deaf patients. https://twitter.com/Ebonyrgooden/status/1386031550429421572
We are completely right to question the impact that this could have on future Deaf patients. https://twitter.com/Ebonyrgooden/status/1386031550429421572
This is an important side of the issue, Ben. We donât know whether youâre using these incorrect and poorly signed signs in conversation with patients or indeed other healthcare staff. We are right to question that, seeing as it concerns the important subject of public health.
I would also like to think that healthcare practitioners such as yourself are required to be professional when it comes to their social media output, too. Most organisations have a SM policy to ensure professionalism and mitigate any potential reputational damage.
While your comment on not knowing how you conduct yourself professionally is somewhat correct (we havenât seen you at work), we can criticise how you delivered a Deaf awareness session in a professional capacity, and the impact your video series could have on Deaf patients.
Youâve blocked me, a Deaf person, for making a polite request to stop teaching sign language. We are questioning your mindset/viewpoint here, and such a mindset can extend to your profession and how you interact with patients, Deaf or hearing, in an area as important as health.
Yesterday, you said âif people read/listenedâ, weâd understand that you arenât trying to teach. Given most of the criticism has come from Deaf people, for whom telling them theyâre not listening is pretty offensive, we are right to question your attitude towards our community.
Also, if the anonymity of the person questioning your professional standards is an issue, then know that I too pointed out concerns in this regard, and my name is public.
If you donât want your professionalism questioned like this, improve your attitude to Deaf people.
If you donât want your professionalism questioned like this, improve your attitude to Deaf people.
We are right to question that, but thank you for your response thread nonetheless. I would be grateful if you could issue a response on the future of Signing Saturdayâs, as this is the main area of concern to Deaf people like me.
These two tweets arenât the only posts from @radiographerben which refer to him âteachingâ sign language, by the way. Hereâs two tweets which show he has âtaughtâ BSL to students in Cumbria in 2017, and attendees at the âTowards Inclusionâ conference in 2018: https://twitter.com/liamodelluk/status/1365633725455826944
Ben has also said that the âoverwhelming majorityâ are âfully awareâ that heâs ânot trying to teach signingâ.
I canât survey all of the people following him to check, but even one person - let alone the three below and one above - saying he is should be of concern.
I canât survey all of the people following him to check, but even one person - let alone the three below and one above - saying he is should be of concern.
And itâs not just Benâs followers who are saying heâs âteachingâ sign language - heâs said so himself.
Heâs taken issue with us questioning his professional standards, but given heâs teaching potentially incorrect signs to colleagues at work, we have every right to be concerned.
Heâs taken issue with us questioning his professional standards, but given heâs teaching potentially incorrect signs to colleagues at work, we have every right to be concerned.
UPDATE: Ben has issued another statement on his teaching of BSL, and to begin with, I want to stress again that those being abusive or vitriolic do not speak for me, and I condemn their actions.
We can criticise Benâs actions with civility.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386679079781511172?s=20
We can criticise Benâs actions with civility.
https://twitter.com/radiographerben/status/1386679079781511172?s=20
I welcome this apology, but the conditional âanyâ negates the fact that we *have* seen people upset by your actions.
It should read: âI apologise for the offence or upset caused.â
If you accept comments made, can now confirm that you are ending Signing Saturday, Ben?
It should read: âI apologise for the offence or upset caused.â
If you accept comments made, can now confirm that you are ending Signing Saturday, Ben?