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PseudoscientistIvor Cummins - thinks he has never debunked .... well #wrongagainivor ... here I provide a thread of threads
of debunks ...for RETWEETING & posting anywhere this guy posts non-sense
1- @DrDomPimenta & round 2
of debunks ...for RETWEETING & posting anywhere this guy posts non-sense 1- @DrDomPimenta & round 2
Here are the videos summarised in an easy to read format ....
https://threader.app/thread/1305861383607771137 https://threader.app/thread/1306950058391281665
https://threader.app/thread/1305861383607771137 https://threader.app/thread/1306950058391281665
2 @braidedmanga This next one is itself a thread of threads ... a long read curated with lots of examples of #wrongagainivor https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1346820505689587712?s=20
3 - @zorinaq takes on Ivors #casedemic TM https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1319892084250165254?s=20
4 - Mathematician @alexselby1770 handles the "gompertz curve" http://sonorouschocolate.com/covid19/index.php?title=Cummins-2020-09-08
5 - Potholer54 on youtube 100k plus views in worth a watch tidy points out some of many flaws in Ivor Cummins arguments and tactics
even makes a correction which is something Ivor does do
even makes a correction which is something Ivor does do
6 - Fellow engineer @roberto_blanko was onto him early in his rise as the "go-to covid guru" (for the deplorable https://twitter.com/roberto_blanko/status/1306382326461542400?s=20
7 - @jocami_ca data guy ... not sure if he is "HARDCORE" like all of Ivors "data guys" posted this debunk on Sept 20th https://twitter.com/jocami_ca/status/1307572931766165504?s=20
8 - @gregfoley2002 in this hot off the press brief clear thread asks what does Ivor Cummins believe? ... pointing out some of the self-defined terms Ivor uses (which can be altered to mean anything he wishes as he made the term up in the first place) https://twitter.com/gregfoley2002/status/1385854201058799616?s=20
9 - @andrew_croxford in a single image takes on Ivor's Seasonality oversimplification (by the way no one denies seasonality might have a role but Ivor thinks its a sole or primary driver of the "virome") #WrongAgainIvor https://twitter.com/andrew_croxford/status/1385663869096534016?s=20
10 - I think I can plug my own first long thread #debunk of Ivor Cummins @FatEmperor - it was enough to provoke a video response from him ... not bad considering my 250 or so followers at the time ... https://twitter.com/dr_barrett/status/1360940446650929163?s=21
10b- Ivor's reply video exposes him further - not understanding that sampling is not an "intervention group" (see marine NEJM study) and is caught changing data sets /switching from Z score to raw mortality https://twitter.com/dr_barrett/status/1362527174234931200?s=21
11 - @gorskon MD PhD takes on the "casedemic" fallacy https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/no-covid-19-casedemic/
12 @s8mb et al with nice piece on Ivor ... https://www.covidfaq.co/Ivor-Cummins-20d36373da834c8f884486a3302ac58e
Have to take care of something now.
Further additions coming list is LONG... DM if you have any suggestions for the list ... #WrongAgainIvor
Further additions coming list is LONG... DM if you have any suggestions for the list ... #WrongAgainIvor
14 @greg_travis holds Ivor’s feet to the fire on seasonality with hard data ... (Follow him for almost daily examples and updates often targeted @FatEmperor ) https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1335977701631545345
14b Greg has a nice collection here explaining the politicisation of the meaning / understanding of seasonality and mortality by covid deniers (esp those with patreon accounts @fatemperor) here https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1371114423360819207
15. @AtomsksSanakan takes on Ivor Cummins #misinformation and wilful misinterpretations and his “papers” in this thread https://twitter.com/atomskssanakan/status/1361744135619809280
16. @braidedmanga gets another shout out here - taking apart Ivor misrepresenting a paper and exactly why he tackles Ivor Cummins #disinformation https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1362087022219980802
17 @Marco_Piani shoots holes on the “casedemic” TM.
I will use the characters here to apologise for the typos in first tweet of the thread - editing to comply to the character limit is my excuse. https://twitter.com/marco_piani/status/1352617837827944452
I will use the characters here to apologise for the typos in first tweet of the thread - editing to comply to the character limit is my excuse. https://twitter.com/marco_piani/status/1352617837827944452
18. here @jsm2334 most certainly gives Ivor Cummins an open minded fair shot - for me he stretches(not unreasonably at the time) to give some credit to Ivor eg “focus on cases” - but ultimately he exposes key flaws in Ivor’s take on the situation ... https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/ivor-cummins-evaluating-some-european-unconventional-doubter-denier-viewpoints
19. TIME and new data debunks Ivor Cummins more than anyone - thing is, it does so predictably - many us have had “I told you so” moments with him... some coming from him presumably knowingly using lagging data. @Marco_Piani 
https://twitter.com/marco_piani/status/1378485552962494471
https://twitter.com/marco_piani/status/1378485552962494471
19b. @zorinaq gets another mention as dry tinder continued to fall apart ... https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1327385605819437057
20. I think it’s reasonable to highlight one of my own again - here I explore Ivor’s #scienceabuse setting up a up strawman on Israel’s Vaccine data - by trying to declare it cost ineffective in a study with 15 median follow-up from 1st dose .... no response from @FatEmperor https://twitter.com/dr_barrett/status/1377258318729723906
no response from @FatEmperor https://twitter.com/dr_barrett/status/1377258318729723906
21. Of course there is @cjsnowdon Who almost daily, scores points on poor old Ivor. @FatEmperor https://quillette.com/2021/01/16/rise-of-the-coronavirus-cranks/
21a @cjsnowdon continues to point out #wrongagainivor follow him for the live updates@... https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/1384959831279341571
I will call next one to 14-c as I return to highlight @greg_travis really has a lovely aside on the covid archetypes I will let people draw their own conclusions on which one Ivor best fits https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1325952121129345024
22 - Now an overdue mention a of whole account @WrongAgainIvor dedicated to pounding Ivor with his own failed predictions ... here is Ivor presenting lagging data to make an argument ... TIME yet again catches up to him - that “tungsten shield” cracks with updated data. #covid19 https://twitter.com/wrongagainivor/status/1382374360451792900
22-a @WrongAgainIvor holds Ivor’s prior statements to the fire ... early on Ivor was pro-mask ; switching only when consensus switched being pro-mask - it’s good the change mind with new evidence but weird to go other direction of the newer evidence ... https://twitter.com/wrongagainivor/status/1385860167326183424
Of course the older evidence against masks was always there ...one could be tempted to think the switch in thinking was more to do with being contrarian / fitting in with a certain crowd than based on science ...
23 - @ParkinJim shows Ivor’s inability to listen and self correct - as Ivor calculates area under the curve for CUMULATIVE mortality graph (that is already essentially a AUC) https://twitter.com/parkinjim/status/1350612768836231168?s=21
24 - I will pop another mini one infographic here on Ivor and his confirmation bias - sharing anything he thinks fits his viewpoint without checking it ... like the time he praises Isle of Man for no lockdown after there long harshly enforced lockdown worked ... https://twitter.com/dr_barrett/status/1364666649559900160
https://twitter.com/dr_barrett/status/1364666649559900160
25 - here is another one from http://fullfact.org
https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-believe-lockdown-sceptics/
https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-believe-lockdown-sceptics/
We now have OVER 2 DOZEN critiques and debunks listed here ... I have been multi-tasking ... I do have a few more to add - this thread is a living document so if there is a good one out there you want on the list my DMs are open ...
