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exploring relationships in detective conan thread! let& #39;s go!
okay first the disclaimers! ill put a cw for ship & #39;hate& #39; for most canon ships but it& #39;s not rlly hate, it& #39;s not meant to be negative necessarily, it& #39;s just a look into how they& #39;re written but yea take care. Also u may think im being incorrect and thats okay! This is my opinion-
and my experience with detco. Though don;t argue im not good at that : ( and also I& #39;ll try and avoid putting my personal grievences in this but no promises lol. Also it& #39;s okay if u like these ships !! this isn& #39;t a hate thread! it& #39;s just when i like smth a lot i feel the need to-
anylase/tear it to pieces like this is from a place of massive interest in detco! It& #39;s for fun. Okay I& #39;ll post this and start on the next part so everyone can read it ^^ this is meant to be light hearted btw dw
PART ONE- WOMEN IN DETCO (i& #39;ll write part by part to make it easier)
i think when looking at the relationships in this show it& #39;s important to consider how the characters, especially the women, are written in this show. I& #39;ll try and make it brief bc it& #39;s not the main point of this thread but i think some look in is important. -
A lot of women in detco are written as future housewives- not that being one is a bad thing but we have to take into account that this series is written by a cishet man and aimed towards teenagers (mostly male i think though u could debate that). -
Characters such as Ran and Kazuha are characterised through their strength and independence, but we are made very aware that they will & #39;settle down& #39; for their respective love interests, ran especially already cleans shinichi& #39;s house and is essentially the housekeeper-
for the mouri household, in absence of her mother. We see this in Kogoro and Eri& #39;s early relarionship as well- Eri appears to be a stay at home mother, and only seems to work/return to work after they split. Yukiko retires after marrying Yuusaku. All in all we know-
that the role of these characters is to & #39;settle& #39; down with their bfs. You could also talk ab how their traits tend to be & #39;dulled& #39; when around their love interests. Ran stops being ran and becomes & #39;shinichis love interest& #39;- evidence the high school trip arc-
Also ran being emotional/gentle around him isn& #39;t a bad thing! It& #39;s just that when the situation is about shinichi and ran her character seems to be simplified to a few of her traits and the focus shifts on shinichi. Now there are three characters I wanna briefly mention-
Sonoko- you could say sonoko is a subversion to this however a subversion isn& #39;t rlly one when it& #39;s punished by the narrative. Yes sonoko is independant and has a loud personality, and is allowed to be several things and her life does not revolve around makoto-
while it does revolve around boys u could argue, it& #39;s in a way where they are the ones reduced to objects of pursuit etc. But again, it& #39;s punsihed by the narrative. Her apperance is insulted multiple times, and her intelligence, and her relationships with makoto (who states that-
it& #39;s her fault she gets almost murdered when they meet, because of what she was wearing) is meant 2 show that she is immature and a silly rich girl-we can tell because a lot of the prior points are thought through by conan, who is the character a cishet male audience is expected-
to somewhat relate to. Also due to shinichis nature we have to assume what he says is right unless a joke or proven otheriwse- and sonoko herself mentions she isn& #39;t that pretty in comparison to ran.-
masumi is also a subversion who isn& #39;t really a subversion. She is allowed her own personality even around men such as shinichi, doesn;t have a clear cut love interest, and has intelligence on par with shinichi. However the narrative constantly questions her womanhood to make up-
for this. She is not allowed to be both at once- she is either a good female character or on par with a male character-he rbeing the second one means we must constantly be reminded that she is not a Proper Woman and that her & #39;flaw& #39; is her expression of femninity, which is-
critcisied by other female characters. Next one is Ai, however this will b short. Because her and conan are probbaly not endgame, there is more room to show equality in their relationship, because she does not & #39;threaten& #39; him. Though they found a way to show housewife tendencies-
by how she treats agasa sometimes which is odd?? it wouldn& #39;t be worth mentioning if the series itself didn;t point it out that she is like a mother/naggy towards him. But you could debate ahainst that, just thought it was worth mentioning. Okay onto the next part
