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Does a country have the democractic right to choose to have a referendum?
Yes or No
It's a simple question. https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/1384208872789876744
Does a country have the democractic right to choose to have a referendum?
Yes or No
It's a simple question. https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/1384208872789876744
I transcribed Douglas' interview below
If you have answered No.
Why?
Why?
If you have answered Yes.
The follow up question:
When does that country have the right to choose to have a referendum?
The follow up question:
When does that country have the right to choose to have a referendum?
Because Douglas Moray , Ruth Davidson I believe can be simplified to
Question 1: Yes (although they cannot utter the word Yes , they cannot answer No)
Question 2: Now is not the time, we already decided and that settles it for a random time period
Question 1: Yes (although they cannot utter the word Yes , they cannot answer No)
Question 2: Now is not the time, we already decided and that settles it for a random time period
So you also have Ruth Davidson
With the below https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/1384442405538209793
With the below https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/1384442405538209793
oh and of course the Daily Express chirping in https://twitter.com/Daily_Express/status/1384852042154496000
You also have
'No state should be expected to have to endure repeat referendums on their very existence whenever it suits a separatist movement to hold one.' https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1384784217712730113
'No state should be expected to have to endure repeat referendums on their very existence whenever it suits a separatist movement to hold one.' https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1384784217712730113
After all
The pollsters have it wrong
So why are unionists so afraid? https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1385165938954280962
The pollsters have it wrong
So why are unionists so afraid? https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1385165938954280962
Both of the above from Ruth and Douglas
Are deflections from the fundamental questions
1. Does a country have the democratic right to choose to have a referendum?
2. When does that country have the right to choose to have a referendum?
Are deflections from the fundamental questions
1. Does a country have the democratic right to choose to have a referendum?
2. When does that country have the right to choose to have a referendum?
For me
It is simple
The answers are:
1. Yes
2. There is no time restraint on 1
It is simple
The answers are:
1. Yes
2. There is no time restraint on 1
So on Question 1
“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy”
That was David Davis MP
Now I think David Davis is an amoral cheating lying racist incompetent charlatan
But that does not mean I agree with him on the above https://mobile.twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1012780901313536000
“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy”
That was David Davis MP
Now I think David Davis is an amoral cheating lying racist incompetent charlatan
But that does not mean I agree with him on the above https://mobile.twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1012780901313536000
So on Question 2
There was once upon a time some politicians who wanted to hold a second referendum
By putting such a referendum in their manifesto at the next general election
So to these politicians the timeframe was as soon as they democratically could obtain a mandate
There was once upon a time some politicians who wanted to hold a second referendum
By putting such a referendum in their manifesto at the next general election
So to these politicians the timeframe was as soon as they democratically could obtain a mandate
If Dominic could provide a list of MPs who subscribed to that position that would be helpful
He could let Douglas and Ruth know
He could let Douglas and Ruth know
Now I also think Dominic Raab is an amoral cheating lying racist nativist incompetent charlatan
Who does not know the importance of Dover
And who does not understand the importance of the Good Friday Agreement https://mobile.twitter.com/oxforddiplomat/status/1306499480829689858?lang=ca
Who does not know the importance of Dover
And who does not understand the importance of the Good Friday Agreement https://mobile.twitter.com/oxforddiplomat/status/1306499480829689858?lang=ca
That is why Dominic Raab and so many of his colleagues had to sell the lies of having many solutions to the NI border
The contempt they had for the peace process
For Northern Ireland
Endless https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1357270164174159872
The contempt they had for the peace process
For Northern Ireland
Endless https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1357270164174159872
Or on Dover https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/08/dominic-raab-dover-calais-brexit-uk-france
I wrote a little song rewording Vera Lynn on the Farage Garage Franchise now infesting Kent https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1345296244533587968
So
As you see
Conservative MPs
Already agree a democracy has the right to change its mind
And they already agree on the time frame - as soon as an election is possible to affirm that decision
As you see
Conservative MPs
Already agree a democracy has the right to change its mind
And they already agree on the time frame - as soon as an election is possible to affirm that decision
So
All that leaves Ruth and Douglas with is two routes
1. Is playing up the "divisiveness" of a referendum
2. Is arguing that the time for a referendum is not now due to coronavirus
All that leaves Ruth and Douglas with is two routes
1. Is playing up the "divisiveness" of a referendum
2. Is arguing that the time for a referendum is not now due to coronavirus
I would remind Ruth Davidson
Of a referendum
Where her party leader and his campaign group - let alone the various others
Led a campaign of lies, cheating, racism, xenophobia, islamophobia, nativism and of cakeist fantasy https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1342019458366382081
Of a referendum
Where her party leader and his campaign group - let alone the various others
Led a campaign of lies, cheating, racism, xenophobia, islamophobia, nativism and of cakeist fantasy https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1342019458366382081
And on the "now is not the time" because of coronavirus as this country recovers
I would remind you of the legacy of a decade of austerity https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1202012607928061952
I would remind you of the legacy of a decade of austerity https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1202012607928061952
And also
A reminder
COnservative MPs and ministers
WANTED TO EXPLOIT CORONAVIRUS IN WHICH TO BURY A NO DEAL BREXIT
Had Trump won that would have been the outcome
The quote from June 2020
A reminder
COnservative MPs and ministers
WANTED TO EXPLOIT CORONAVIRUS IN WHICH TO BURY A NO DEAL BREXIT
Had Trump won that would have been the outcome
The quote from June 2020
The article from June 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/03/pandemic-no-deal-brexit-vote-leavers-coronavirus
Here is Nicola Sturgeon https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1384992839365505024
So this thread
Was not going to go into the arguments for or against independence or the union
After all
I know how I voted in 2014
And I am not sure how I would vote now
I am split - you might say at 52-48
This was simply a look at two fundamental questions
Was not going to go into the arguments for or against independence or the union
After all
I know how I voted in 2014
And I am not sure how I would vote now
I am split - you might say at 52-48
This was simply a look at two fundamental questions
I would ask any unionist
And that goes to ALL UNIONIST parties
Explain to me how you condone a situation where for Northern Ireland it is now in a position that no unionist can support
And tell me
How you justify or normalise lying to the Queen
That is all
And that goes to ALL UNIONIST parties
Explain to me how you condone a situation where for Northern Ireland it is now in a position that no unionist can support
And tell me
How you justify or normalise lying to the Queen
That is all
When the Scottish results come in
Depending on what they are
The next line will be what element of the result constitutes a mandate
1st votes for parties supporting a referendum
2nd votes for parties supporting a referendum
Overall % vote
Turnout
Number MSPs
Depending on what they are
The next line will be what element of the result constitutes a mandate
1st votes for parties supporting a referendum
2nd votes for parties supporting a referendum
Overall % vote
Turnout
Number MSPs
Anyway to end this thread
With a look at one man
Our blessed People's Prime Minister
Why would he be afraid of a referendum?
Why would he not want to vanquish those pesky "seperatists" and the "Scottish Nationalist Party" https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1374286271732928513
With a look at one man
Our blessed People's Prime Minister
Why would he be afraid of a referendum?
Why would he not want to vanquish those pesky "seperatists" and the "Scottish Nationalist Party" https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1374286271732928513
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