Do women like bad boys?
This is a question I& #39;ve had for a long time since on the one hand you always hear that they do. But on the other hand, women themselves say they want a nice guy.
Initially my way of resolving this was assuming that only bad girls liked bad boys.
But I was soon proven wrong, multiple times. I witnessed the phenomenon of good guys (who had decent looks but not popular) get rejected in favour of cocky and popular guys who were known for being unfaithful. It was nice,sweet girls who did this. So they really did like bad guys
But the truth is that they liked the
fact that these guys were popular and high status. This was enough for them to ignore his bad traits. They would just wish that these guys would be nice to them which they never were because these guys had too many options. This was in a high
school/college environment. In the adult world, high status guys
are the attractive, successful and independant men. This is slightly open to interpretation based on what the woman sees as high status but these are generally true.

If you think about it, men who don& #39;t
have as many options are unlikely to be able treat women horribly and still keep them interested.

So the men who are bad, in general are bad because they have the option of sleeping with many women and not having to commit.

Also anyone that has a lot of practice at something is
usually good at it. Players have a lot of practice with women, so ofcourse they are more likely to be make a woman desire him than the "nice guy".
Men who PRETEND to be bad thinking it will attract women will only push women away. You must become high status &highly desirable
and this will give you the OPTION of being bad and treating women like an option if you so wish to do so. Ultimately it is not about being bad but being highly wanted. Which not everyone can be, which is why this red pill farce fails for many men.
There are some caveats, so far
I have talked about women who are secure in themselves. But women who are insecure can easily be manipulated by acting like you are better than her. If she believes it, then in her mind, she sees you as something desirable and will want your validation.
Being bad sometimes works because emotional unavailability and indifference mimics the reality of guys who are actually highly desired. And we all know that sometimes faking it can help you make it.
But I wouldn& #39;t do this, I believe in treating
women well because I believe in spreading positivity. It used to hurt seeing women I liked choosing players who cheated on them over me. But that is not a reason to hurt people once you gain the power. However, never become the guy she settles for after all the guys she wanted
wouldn& #39;t settle for her. It& #39;s mostly a recipe for disaster. It leads to her being resentful as she didn& #39;t truly desire you.
In summary, successful people often have more dark triad traits such as narcissism. Women love successful men. Therefore it gives the illusion that women
love bad men. When in reality, they love success. Success is not only about money however.
Look at Jay Z and Beyonce. She has a lot of money so she could be with anyone. But there are not many men more SUCCESSFUL than her. So she went with Jay Z because he is. Women in general
date upwards. They like guys who are older, taller, and more successful than them. As long as you& #39;re beating them in all these fields, you will be fine.
I believe that you should be nice but not a pushover, highly desirable but act with virtue rather than taking advantage.
High desirability factors:

Status in society

Looks (including height and body)

Grooming, scent, hygiene

Social awareness & humour

Wealth

Drive

Dress sense

Strength - both physical and mental

Ability to provide security (you can& #39;t make her feel too insecure with you)
The above factors are more for relationships. I& #39;d say it is different for flings. Bad men seem more dominant and better in bed. So that is one thing that is alluring about them to women. The raw masculinity and aggression. Even good girls might want to sleep with that.
Most of the red pill is geared towards sleeping around rather than healthy relationships. That why is there is so much emphasis on becoming a bad boy.

If you want a decent feminine woman in a long-term relationship, I still think you should be a decent masculine man.
Looks are still one of the biggest factors. You can& #39;t change your face or height, but you can improve your body.

There was a study on which body parts women looked at most on a man.

They found it was in this order:

Abdominals

Face

Shoulders and biceps

Forearms

Quadriceps
Some girls just love the excitement of a guy who& #39;s going to ruin their life.

Something alluring about unattainable men.

You should definitely stay away from these types because they are not only stupid but also immature, often neurotic and have a host of other issues.
Women do like social proof that you are desirable though, that& #39;s another thing players have over nice guys.
They complain about men having multiple women but are also looking down on men for not having other women.

A study showed the same thing:
https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/1380203945562411009?s=19">https://twitter.com/DegenRolf...
There are all types of women so ofcourse there are women who like kind men.
It& #39;s just that not every girl who claims it will act it out in reality.

Men wouldn& #39;t say "women like bad boys" out of the blue. It& #39;s from lived experience. https://twitter.com/sashachapin/status/1383580156766294016?s=19">https://twitter.com/sashachap...
If you think about, even from the school playground, boys who were mean to girls were presumed to like them. So maybe there is an inherent biological or social aspect to this.

I think guys start questioning this because they wonder what is wrong with them when they fail at love
And here& #39;s the problem, people will claim nice guys are actually not. But I think most people who see themselves as nice usually are, they care, they& #39;re thoughtful, sometimes overthink.
If you had an experience where you saw the bad boy stereotype to be true, you would think too
Guys who think a lot can spend a lot of time trying to figure stuff like this out. We do this because whatever we were wasn& #39;t enough. But I& #39;ve seen both types of guys get women, so I think it& #39;s best to be whoever you truly are because it& #39;s hard to change who you really are.
Becoming a bad boy is like the male version of plastic surgery. It& #39;s the insecurity of feeling like being kind is seen as feminine by the woman you desire. Especially if you& #39;ve faced a number of rejections. It doesn& #39;t help because some girls really think like that. Sometimes it
comes in the form of women questioning if you& #39;re gay. This has really happened. This is what other women don& #39;t see. They think you& #39;re upset because "you were only nice to get laid" but didn& #39;t get it so now you& #39;re complaining. They don& #39;t know that you& #39;re always nice to everyone.
We also have to remember it& #39;s not a dichotomy, you can be somewhere in between nice and bad. The research on niceness desirability is mixed. But it does favour nice men a little. Develop confidence and be yourself because there is no clear answer. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy#:~:text=A%20nice%20guy%20is%20an,used%20both%20positively%20and%20negatively.">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice...
The problem with being nice is that although niceness is attractive from the right person, focusing on pleasing her too much leads to neediness and the idealization of her. You will seem unattractive when you can& #39;t be yourself and treat her like some Godly being.
Women also need to know how demeaning it is when they tell you things like "I wish I had a guy like you" then proceed with the guy who treats women badly. One girl even told me to stay away from her man cos he& #39;s a bad influence. They definitely know what their guys are like.
You wouldn’t tell a woman who’s nice and sweet that they’re bad people in reality and only pretend to be that to be liked. People come to conclusions from lived experiences. The way they interpreted those experiences could be wrong but nevertheless you haven’t experienced it.
But ultimately a lot of attraction is in understanding the psyche of the other person. That’s why you see an ugly partner who is more desired by the good looking partner. If you can understand the mind of anyone, you know what gets them. Different women like different things.
Many people have also shown me that while women may not like a total dick, many women are attracted to men who seem to be above them, and make them feel insecure or beneath the man. But these women are usually insecure and immature so maybe not the best types to go for.
But the question which arises for me is, yes this works on insecure and immature women, but isn& #39;t most of the female population very insecure? I mean that& #39;s quite well known.
And if MOST women are insecure, then men are right, being an illusive bad boy works for MOST women.
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