Thread by @LazarusLong13, Here's the discussion of #CoVidIsAairborne that happened at the University of Calgary.https://ucalgary.yuja.com/V/Video?v=332352&node=1205653&a=385475807&autoplay=1I [...]

Here's the discussion of #CoVidIsAairborne that happened at the University of Calgary.

https://ucalgary.yuja.com/V/Video?v=332352&node=1205653&a=385475807&autoplay=1

I am going to list out Dr. Conly's slides, with links to the studies.

First though - Dr. Conly says that viable virus has NOT been cultivated. It has. Lednicky.

Is airborne transmission an important and mitigatable aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic? \u2013 A...

Description:\nTo date, the transmission of COVID-19 has been classified by major institutions as Contact\/Droplet, which has resulted in mitigation protocols such as handwashing, masking guidelines,...

https://ucalgary.yuja.com/V/Video?v=332352&node=1205653&a=385475807&autoplay=1

While doing this, I came across this webinar by Dr. Conly:
https://www.who.int/infection-prevention/campaigns/clean-hands/webinar2_JohnC_28Apr.pdf?ua=1

If you notice some similarities to today's? It does appear very similar to this Clean Hands campaign.

Of interest is slide 6 in which he says, "It is a respiratory virus (contact droplet not

airborne transmission. His emphasis on "Not" airborne transmission.

In this most recent presentation, you'll note that he is NOW accepting of "situational" airborne transmission.

But I need to interject here.

Since we know that EVERY house, bar, restaurant, library, etc

EXCEPT those that have paid extra for increased ventilation, WILL BE that situation.

Look - either it can be transported via the air. Or it can't.

If it can be, then it's airborne.

Anyway, here are the slides

Slide 1 - Dr. Conly starts at 26:30.

Slide 2 - 27:45

Slide 3 - 28:44

Article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/health/coronavirus-retractions-studies.html

Study - "Identifying airborne transmission...."
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/14857?fbclid=IwAR0Y1gaX7B75prQjDmiSXM4Mfl4xip2t4NQoQ7kEhb0tvqUnn_RvOPTI0_A

Slide 4- 29:47

Slide 5 - 30:20

Slide 6 - 31:10

Slide 7 - 31:55

Slide 8 - 33:23

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2196-x
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/71/10/2663/5842165
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32421494/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32159775/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32342252/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431879/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33706819/

Last one - a little unsure, but believe it's this:
https://www.ammi.ca/Content/2021%20E-poster%20Schedule%20%26%20Presentation%20Instructions.pdf

"P23 Congenital SARS-CoV-2 infection in a pre-term neonate with viable virus from the placenta Joseph
Vayalumkal" - Page 4 in the pdf.

Slide 9 - 34:49

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32442256/

Slide 10 - 35:33

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/report-of-the-who-china-joint-mission-on-coronavirus-disease-2019-(covid-19)

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/modes-of-transmission-of-virus-causing-covid-19-implications-for-ipc-precaution-recommendations

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)13168-6/fulltext

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0010717

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33215698/

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1408636

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27940937/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23994190/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089148/ (I believe this is Dr. Kerkhove's)

Last source for that slide - I believe that it's:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.21.20108746v1

Now, published: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0240205

What do we know about SARS-CoV-2 transmission? A systematic review and meta-analysis of the...

Introduction Current SARS-CoV-2 containment measures rely on controlling viral transmission. Effective prioritization can be determined by understanding SARS-CoV-2 transmission dynamics. We conducted...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.21.20108746v1

Slide 11 - 36:58

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2001316

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext#%20

Could not find the last source with Zhynag.

Slide 12 - 37:13
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7445459/ - Conly- co-author.

https://aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13756-020-00779-6 - Conly

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33215698/ - 2nd time cited.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/2/265/5825509?login=true - most likely.

Durante-magnoni CMI 2020- not found.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e5.htm

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/infection-control-and-hospital-epidemiology/article/comprehensive-investigation-of-an-inhospital-transmission-cluster-of-a-symptomatic-sarscov2positive-physician-among-patients-and-healthcare-workers-in-germany/2444981EDEB3B38D99A251CA66A15A25

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32259546/

Mallot r et al (Personal communication 2021 (Paging @jmcrookston

Risk of nosocomial transmission of coronavirus disease 2019: an experience in a general ward...

Our findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 is not spread by an airborne route, and nosocomial transmissions can be prevented through vigilant basic infection control measures, including wearing of surgical...

Slide 13 - 38:40

Sources are SUBMISSION PENDING.

I'm sorry, but I thought this was supposed to be a scientific discussion? How are we supposed to read this? Discuss this? The personal communication cited above?

Moving on for my own sanity.

Slide 14 - 40:16

Again SUBMISSION PENDING.

Slide 15 - 41:21

https://www.ammi.ca/Content/2021%20E-poster%20Schedule%20%26%20Presentation%20Instructions.pdf

"P23 Congenital SARS-CoV-2 infection in a pre-term neonate with viable virus from the placenta Joseph
Vayalumkal" - Page 4 in the pdf.

Slide 16 - 41:56

SUBMISSION PENDING.

Slide 17 - 42:14

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33706819/

Slide 18 - 42:38

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7523093/

Slide 19- 43:11

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6043624/

Slide 20 - 43:33

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(20)30003-3/fulltext

Slide 21 - 43:45

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.08.21252839v1.full-text

Slide 22 - 43:51

https://journals.lww.com/cjsportsmed/Abstract/2006/01000/Prospective_Study_of_Bacterial_and_Viral.7.aspx
(Actually here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM197306282882601)

And
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6293304/

Slide 23 - 44:16

Slide 24 - 44:28
https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions

https://www.info.gov.hk/info/sars/pdf/amoy_e.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341605375_What_do_we_know_about_SARS-CoV-2_transmission_A_systematic_review_and_meta-analysis_of_the_secondary_attack_rate_serial_interval_and_asymptomatic_infection

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2004973

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5415578/

A quick note - at 44:30, Dr. Conly acknowledges that aerosol transmission is absolutely possible.

Says that it's possible within crowded settings with poor ventilation.

HEY!!!! WE ALL LIVE IN POOR VENTILATION! WE WORK IN POOR VENTILATION!!!! WE RELAX IN PLACES WITH

POOR VENTILATION!!!!

We don't all have the opportunity to work in an environment with 6 air changes per hour!

This is the problem with the @WHO's transmission committee!

Of course air sampling is difficult! You literally have huge air cleaners CLEANING the air while

trying to find something from a just-cleaned medium!

Sorry...this gets me all kinds of fired up....

Slide 25 - 44:50

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5415578/