I want to say stuff but I feel like shouldn't Like I have Lots of thoughts of about c!wilbur but they aren't as simple as he was wrong or right. He's a very complicated character and Very morally gray but he was mental ill but thats not excuse to hurt ppl the way he did /dsmp https://twitter.com/sootupdate/status/1380731515718545410

Like I think cc!wilbur has even kinda talked about how c!wilbur was a man who dealt with paranoia, anxiety and his insecurity were at a front and thats what led him to destroy his home. He clearly wanted power, but in that it destroyed him. He was mental ill before even before

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pogtopia. If you listen to Eight by sleeping at last (which is the song that he based c!Wilbur off) it's very clear that he grew up fast, he didn't feel enough and pushing ppl away. The End of his life was literally assistant suicide from his own father.

He was clearly wasn't in stable condition even from the start of everything. C!Wilbur did care about l'manburg deeply but that was his down fall. But with that, that didn't mean it was okay to be a neglectful father. That doesn't mean it was okay he manipulated c!tommy and

c!tubbo. That didn't mean he was allowed to completely forget his best friend niki, completely abandoning her. That didn't mean he got to take one of Jack's lives. That didn't mean he got to destroy everyone's home. Because it wasn't just his home or his creation. It was all

of their. Tommy and Tubbo founded L'manburg just as much as he did. Fundy, niki, jack and quackity were just a much citizens as he was. He hurt a lot of people and he hurt them greatly. He didn't even stick around for the consequences. He let them to feel hurt by him but also

deal with grief as a broken group. None of them, including phil, even know how to deal with their grief. The feelings are complicated. Niki didn't even know he was dead right away. It's sad and heart breaking. The thing is he did care. We know he loved them. But in the end

he was a broken man who hurt the ppl around him that were only trying to help but he was so blinded by his insecurities and paranoia that he didn't care he was hurting them or didn't understand how. He a very complicated character and I do believe there is a chance for

Redemption but hes going have to have a Lot of fucking therapy and going to finally own up to what he's done and not run away like he's always has and will have to genuinely apologize and own up to everything he's done. So yeah, it's more then just he's right or he's wrong /dsmp

also pls stop treating vilbur and lmanbur as separate beings. They are the same person. They are c!Wilbur /dsmp /rp