My issues with radfem
i usually address nothing . im not here to address/justify my opinions/experiences but some of my beloved mutuals asked me to explain the points i made yesterday concerning radfem. this is for you ❤
when it comes to radfem, there are some sentiments, opinions and positions i witnessed in both online and real life radfem activism that im not going to be silent about .
radfem like any movement has its downfalls and it CAN be counterproductive to women . even the best dreams can turn into nightmares .
one of my main concern is the concept of socialization . radfem tend to believe that male are socialized by media/society/whatever to see women as non human . i disagree .
most of the things we deem as socializing tools are controlled by men . so basically men are socialized by men , but how men who do the socializing become misogynists?
the average man for example is socialized by porn to hate women . but porn straight up came from a man's mind (both as an idea and as images), who socialized these men then?
the truth is there are limits to what socialization can explain and frankly i do believe that this notion is just a subtle form of excusing men and can turn into another way of blaming women (like mums)
social factors are real but socialization wont vulnerablize women if women were not already vulnerable (esp physically) . the same thing for men : it wont make them misogynists if they dont already poses a bit of aversion to females.
and thats what you, radfems on whom this apply, dont want to address . you point out the the exaggerated aversion. you offer solutions that are similiar to escapism (separatism) but you dont go further
speaking of separatism, it wont work and you blocking me is a proof . you telling me that me & you will create a strong community when u cant even handle intellectual differences?!
you want to live OUTSIDE of the system when you know jack shit about survival ? you dont even have problem resolution skills or patiance to handle differences
on twitter you block me, on a commune what r u going to do for women who dont worship the ground you walk on ? kick them out leaving them to die?
also you miss Sarah from Manhatan since you lived your whole life in a western society that provided you your basic needs, you wont even handle water that tastes a bit acidic than ur usual taste so sit down
also you really that naive thinking that if you left men behind they wont follow you ? you think that if women come together and separated from men, you think men will say WOMEN RIGHTS ? lmao
they will follow you and they will get even more violent . the shit that i had to face for being a celibate is scary and its not even that radical according to your standards
you can separate yourself all you want from men . they will still follow you and thats why you need to understand the validity .... of using violence.
andrea dworkin said once that the only reason why they (radfems at that time) didnt hold knifes on men is because they still believe in the humanity of men . that was a mistake .
also, enough cheesy talk about female communities, its silly and based on the idea that women are easy to be around (false) . you need to start talking about female gangs instead .
men respond to two things : loss of privileges and violence . you r not in the position to give privileges to take them back but you have arms . use them
forget about petitions and marching and screaming . why dont we get them guns, wear them ski masks, and follow those male politicians who pass ridiculous laws around ?
i know some of you will either laugh or wonder if im crazy . the thing is ... what im trying to say is ... when it comes to politics and getting rights, it might get violent sometimes
some radfems are so quick to drop women who disagree with them / indifferent to them while they are scared to drop a bomb in some chauvinistic politician's Benz .
the truth is that many radfems (esp western) are courageous and radical as long as they r online arguing with cat eared trans activists or with women they deem brainwashed and not worthy of liberation
in essence, when it comes to facing the real issue (men) and harm them to stop their bs , they are chickens as any other average woman they deem a chicken .
many will come and say "well rose the consequences of political violence r dire and we r not powerful enough to deal/escape them" well here r strategies : secrecy and alliances
true radicalism is secret . you need to learn how to shut the fuck up and release the need to voice your anger and politics . keep a journal instead .
liberating women is equiviliant to a coup d'etat cuz every man is a woman's tyrant . you dont see people attempting to do a coup d'etat running around saying they want to do a freaking coup d'etat ..
you have to be very secritive and release that need to be public about everything or anything for that matter, or explain yourself to other women .
as for alliances, you need to learn how to build alliances with women ESP women women who are NOT radical . yes you read that correct .
instead of shitting on these women becuz they think you are ridiculous (which you are), try to see the feminists in them rather the feminists you want them to be
every woman deep down has a hatred for men and every woman try her best to pacify that hatred . if you turned the goal of feminism from female liberation to male destruction, even anti feminists will be by your side
in contrary to popular claims, the women who center men in their lives tend to actually hate them the most , and they r partially centering them out of hoplessness
women who r "misogynists" are not misogynists cuz they hate themselves, they just know men a bit too much than you and they are aware they r doomed to hurt women anyway
so in essence they are realist dystopians . but if given the chance, they r most likely to even go further and potentially ravage men cuz they have nothing to lose : they already lost themselves to patriarchy
in psychiatry, masochism is failed/misdirected sadism . women who do male pandering at their expence (making them masochists) are the biggest male bashers and sadist towards men underneeth
behind that shit show, they r more like to pull the trigger on a man than any other radfem who read Valerie Solanas religiously since she was 14 .
those women dont need you telling them about female liberation , this term is so vague . what you need to do is to write down explicit goals and interact with these women pragmatically .
instead of for example bashing rich women and call them some stupid word made up by male broke marxists, why dont you offer them a deal to support your goal financially in exchange for something ?
instead of negotiating with male politicians or powerful figures to see you as the human being you are, why dont you (secretly) negotiate with the women in their lives instead ?
the thing is politics is a game that you have to play . and while you might not win everything, you try the best to not lose everything . this requires pragmatism and practical mindset
you calling other women who r not feminists but politically active handmaidens and dumb libfems is a proof that you dont see these women as the strategic practical people they are (making YOU a misogynist)
these women are aware they are not winners, they are just making sure to not be total losers, depending on what they want/dont want .
this doesnt negate that some of them are not naive. the thing is naivte is on both sides on different levels .
what it does negate is the act of forgetting about them all together. you know the saying keep ur friends close/enemies closer ? you gotta keep these women way more closer to you .
to say you want to drop them cuz they r neck too deep into the system+ harm other women is based on the idea you believe that only some women are worthy of liberation while others r "deserving of patriarchy"
its one thing to prioritize women you have more in common with in terms of politics, but these women you hate dont feel like they have anything in common with you so why should they join ?
screaming female liberation isnt going to get them to see that necessity of your activism . but they do sense you will use them as pawns .
to deviate yourself from other women cuz they harmed other women is also ingenious since all women (me included) have harmed women in some way . it doesnt have to be intentional
even you miss radfem the politics you support as much as they stem from a well intentioned place, they will still harm / or get manipulated to harm some women in some place
months ago a conversation was around about the downsides of the nordic model made by actual radfems . other radfems silenced everyone by calling them libfems.
when they were told about the testimonies of prostituted women under nordic model, they just didnt give a damn (of course u wont cuz prostitutes are also deemed the fallen women u want to get rid of)
while you jack off to the fantasy of female liberation and playing some riot grrl song in the background, some women didnt eat for days and thats the truth about female existence : most women are hungry for basic things
if these women preffered to be libfems or just didnt want to associate with feminism at all later, you cant blame them .
also, instead of making all women radical or socialists or whatever, why cant u just respect the level on which each woman is working and appreciate what she has to offer ?
you can have differences but enough with calling other women what you are doing yourself .
you scream about how other women are privileged YET you are unwilling to see ur life for what is : privileged to another womans . the truth is every woman's blessing is another's woman's curse and vice versa
in the end, there is no female liberation with no male destruction . u wont get the first if you dont dare to do the other . from my experience, many radfems are only willing to dream about the first while escaping the other.
This is my experince . You might agree . You might disagree . I might be wrong .
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