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Mbappe is better than Messi at 22.
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Base UCL stats:
Mbappe:
43 games | 27 goals | 17 assists
18 KO | 13 goals | 3 assists
Messi:
44 games | 25 goals | 9 assists
21 KO | 12 goals | 2 assists
Mbappe has higher overall contribution and is far ahead in KOs. A closer look vs the big teams:
Mbappe:43 games | 27 goals | 17 assists
18 KO | 13 goals | 3 assists
Messi:44 games | 25 goals | 9 assists
21 KO | 12 goals | 2 assists
Mbappe has higher overall contribution and is far ahead in KOs. A closer look vs the big teams:
Mbappe in the UCL:
ā¢ Barcelona: 4 goals
ā¢ Bayern: 3 goal 1 assist
ā¢ Dortmund: 3 goals 1 assist
ā¢ Man City: 2 goals
ā¢ United: 1 goal 1 assist
ā¢ Juventus: 1 goal
ā¢ Madrid: 1 goal
ā¢ Liverpool: 1 goal
ā¢ Atalanta: 1 assist
ā¢ Leipzig:
G/A in 69% of ties
16 goals 4 assist
ā¢ Barcelona: 4 goals
ā¢ Bayern: 3 goal 1 assist
ā¢ Dortmund: 3 goals 1 assist
ā¢ Man City: 2 goals
ā¢ United: 1 goal 1 assist
ā¢ Juventus: 1 goal
ā¢ Madrid: 1 goal
ā¢ Liverpool: 1 goal
ā¢ Atalanta: 1 assist
ā¢ Leipzig:
G/A in 69% of ties
16 goals 4 assist
Messi in the UCL:
ā¢ Arsenal: 4 goals
ā¢ Bayern: 2 goals 1 assist
ā¢ United: 1 goal
ā¢ Chelsea: 1 assist
ā¢ Inter:
ā¢ Liverpool:
G/A in 40% of ties
8 goals 2 assists
No comparison. Mbappe has FAR better involvements despite playing for weaker teams.
ā¢ Arsenal: 4 goals
ā¢ Bayern: 2 goals 1 assist
ā¢ United: 1 goal
ā¢ Chelsea: 1 assist
ā¢ Inter:
ā¢ Liverpool:
G/A in 40% of ties
8 goals 2 assists
No comparison. Mbappe has FAR better involvements despite playing for weaker teams.
International games:
Mbappe:
42 games | 16 goals | 13 assists
29 comp | 11 goals | 5 assists
Messi:
50 games | 13 goals | 17 assists
35 games | 7 goals | 11 assists
Mbappeās overall contribution is higher, and in competitive games. A look vs big opposition:
Mbappe:42 games | 16 goals | 13 assists
29 comp | 11 goals | 5 assists
Messi:50 games | 13 goals | 17 assists
35 games | 7 goals | 11 assists
Mbappeās overall contribution is higher, and in competitive games. A look vs big opposition:
Competitive involvements:
2 goals 2 goals 1 assist
1 goal
1 goal 1 assist Competitive involvements:
1 goal
1 assist
1 goalMbappe is far ahead here. His 2018 WC is by far the best tournament between the two as well, albeit he had a better side.
Major finals, 1 hit 1 miss each 
Their biggest domestic talking points:
Messiās hattrick vs Madrid. Impressive, albeit they were 4th in the league at this time and were knocked out in the R16 of UCL.
Mbappeās, breaking PSGās title streak with the most G/A for his team at 18. 1 game vs 1 season.
Messiās hattrick vs Madrid. Impressive, albeit they were 4th in the league at this time and were knocked out in the R16 of UCL.
Mbappeās, breaking PSGās title streak with the most G/A for his team at 18. 1 game vs 1 season.
Domestic stats:
143 games
ā¢ 100 goals
ā¢ 41 assists
ā¢ 4 league titles as āMVPā
145 games
ā¢ 88 goals
ā¢ 41 assists
ā¢ 2 league titles as āMVPā
Neither league were UCL giants at these times. La Liga ahead, but balanced by Mbappe winning with Monaco.
143 gamesā¢ 100 goals
ā¢ 41 assists
ā¢ 4 league titles as āMVPā
145 gamesā¢ 88 goals
ā¢ 41 assists
ā¢ 2 league titles as āMVPā
Neither league were UCL giants at these times. La Liga ahead, but balanced by Mbappe winning with Monaco.
Time to consider some points bought up Messi fans in this debate:
ā¢ Ballon DāOr
ā¢ Playmaking
ā¢ Reputation
ā¢ Ballon DāOr
ā¢ Playmaking
ā¢ Reputation
Ballon DāOr rankings at 22:
Mbappe:
ā¢ 2017: 7th
ā¢ 2018: 4th
ā¢ 2019: 6th
ā¢ 2020: 7th
ā¢ 2021:
Messi:
ā¢ 2006: 20th
ā¢ 2007: 3rd
ā¢ 2008: 2nd
ā¢ 2009: 1st
Average ranking: 6 vs 6.5
Mbappe can still win the Ballon Dāor by 22 like Messi, heās currently the favourite.
Mbappe:
ā¢ 2017: 7th
ā¢ 2018: 4th
ā¢ 2019: 6th
ā¢ 2020: 7th
ā¢ 2021:
Messi:
ā¢ 2006: 20th
ā¢ 2007: 3rd
ā¢ 2008: 2nd
ā¢ 2009: 1st
Average ranking: 6 vs 6.5Mbappe can still win the Ballon Dāor by 22 like Messi, heās currently the favourite.
Other play, chance creation:
20/21: 1.0 key passes
20/21: 1.8 key passes
19/20: 2.0 key passes
19/20: 1.3 key passes
09/10: 1.9 key passes
09/10: 1.9 key passes
Despite Messiās silkier dribbling style, the chance creation is comparable.
20/21: 1.0 key passes 20/21: 1.8 key passes 19/20: 2.0 key passes 19/20: 1.3 key passes 09/10: 1.9 key passes 09/10: 1.9 key passesDespite Messiās silkier dribbling style, the chance creation is comparable.
Myth, Messi was NOT widely seen as the GOAT at 22 like some claim.
The source? A clip of Graeme Sounness calling him that, whilst disregarding Maradonna as āArgentina was goodā and forgetting to even mention PelĆ©.
A few of his teammates didnāt even see him as the best ITW:
The source? A clip of Graeme Sounness calling him that, whilst disregarding Maradonna as āArgentina was goodā and forgetting to even mention PelĆ©.
A few of his teammates didnāt even see him as the best ITW:
A summary:
ā¢ Mbappe is drastically ahead in the UCL in big games
ā¢ Internationally, once again better numbers, more clutch and effective involvements overall
ā¢ More domestic achievement so far
All it takes is some sense to get past the blind Messi worship. Mbappe is it.
ā¢ Mbappe is drastically ahead in the UCL in big games
ā¢ Internationally, once again better numbers, more clutch and effective involvements overall
ā¢ More domestic achievement so far
All it takes is some sense to get past the blind Messi worship. Mbappe is it.
Time to get ready for the quotes:
āForcedā
āMessi will always be betterā
*Comments about my @ or PFP*
But, 0 valid arguments.
This canāt be debunked. Heās by far more accomplished by looking at his performances. No changing that.
āForcedā
āMessi will always be betterā
*Comments about my @ or PFP*
But, 0 valid arguments.
This canāt be debunked. Heās by far more accomplished by looking at his performances. No changing that.
Keep quoting with āshut up mferā or stats/images that the thread already considers itās just proving my point about blind worship 
