Everything you need to know about “Holding the Man” & Larry - a long but necessary thread

(fyi the pics in this are important!!)
Everything you need to know about “Holding the Man” & Larry - a long but necessary thread(fyi the pics in this are important!!)
Everything you need to know about “Holding the Man” & Larry - a long but necessary thread(fyi the pics in this are important!!)
@dammitlarrie and I watched this movie last night and I took notes of literally EVERYTHING I could find that relates to Harry and/or Louis. Some bits are significant, others are just little things that made me think of them. This will be a pretty long thread bc there was A LOT.
tw for the thread // homophobia, AIDS, cancer, death
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1 - The general vibe of the movie is very similar to H’s Golden mv as I’m sure you all have heard by now. Part of the movie is set in Italy, and it seems similar to where H filmed Golden.
tw for the thread // homophobia, AIDS, cancer, death.....1 - The general vibe of the movie is very similar to H’s Golden mv as I’m sure you all have heard by now. Part of the movie is set in Italy, and it seems similar to where H filmed Golden.
tw for the thread // homophobia, AIDS, cancer, death.....1 - The general vibe of the movie is very similar to H’s Golden mv as I’m sure you all have heard by now. Part of the movie is set in Italy, and it seems similar to where H filmed Golden.
tw for the thread // homophobia, AIDS, cancer, death.....1 - The general vibe of the movie is very similar to H’s Golden mv as I’m sure you all have heard by now. Part of the movie is set in Italy, and it seems similar to where H filmed Golden.
2 – Less than 3 mins in there was a ‘28’ jersey on screen which is a funny coincidence
3 – Tbh the whole beginning literally looks like if unbelievers and y&b fucked and had a child
3 – Tbh the whole beginning literally looks like if unbelievers and y&b fucked and had a child
3 – Tbh the whole beginning literally looks like if unbelievers and y&b fucked and had a child
4 – Tim (an actor) & John (a rugby player) meet in school in Sydney, AUS. Tim’s much taller/has curly hair and John is really short… so that helps envision the comparisons, because we considered them like this: Tim = Harry and John = Louis (although I'll cross-compare them too)
4 – Tim (an actor) & John (a rugby player) meet in school in Sydney, AUS. Tim’s much taller/has curly hair and John is really short… so that helps envision the comparisons, because we considered them like this: Tim = Harry and John = Louis (although I'll cross-compare them too)
4 – Tim (an actor) & John (a rugby player) meet in school in Sydney, AUS. Tim’s much taller/has curly hair and John is really short… so that helps envision the comparisons, because we considered them like this: Tim = Harry and John = Louis (although I'll cross-compare them too)
4 – Tim (an actor) & John (a rugby player) meet in school in Sydney, AUS. Tim’s much taller/has curly hair and John is really short… so that helps envision the comparisons, because we considered them like this: Tim = Harry and John = Louis (although I'll cross-compare them too)
4 – Tim (an actor) & John (a rugby player) meet in school in Sydney, AUS. Tim’s much taller/has curly hair and John is really short… so that helps envision the comparisons, because we considered them like this: Tim = Harry and John = Louis (although I'll cross-compare them too)
5 – This moment is pretty self-explanatory… Tim and Lou are gay as hell
5 – This moment is pretty self-explanatory… Tim and Lou are gay as hell
5 – This moment is pretty self-explanatory… Tim and Lou are gay as hell
5 – This moment is pretty self-explanatory… Tim and Lou are gay as hell
6 – Tim & John go to a dinner party and have their first kiss!! Reminded me of larry’s obsession with dining tables and the lyrics of Too Young
6 – Tim & John go to a dinner party and have their first kiss!! Reminded me of larry’s obsession with dining tables and the lyrics of Too Young
6 – Tim & John go to a dinner party and have their first kiss!! Reminded me of larry’s obsession with dining tables and the lyrics of Too Young
7 – Tim & John get caught passing love letters and the semi-chill priest at their school has a talk with them. Similar to all the meetings HL had with s*mon/m*dest about keeping their relationship quiet. The priest then says “be careful, Tim, not everything has to be political”
7 – Tim & John get caught passing love letters and the semi-chill priest at their school has a talk with them. Similar to all the meetings HL had with s*mon/m*dest about keeping their relationship quiet. The priest then says “be careful, Tim, not everything has to be political”
7 – Tim & John get caught passing love letters and the semi-chill priest at their school has a talk with them. Similar to all the meetings HL had with s*mon/m*dest about keeping their relationship quiet. The priest then says “be careful, Tim, not everything has to be political”
7 – Tim & John get caught passing love letters and the semi-chill priest at their school has a talk with them. Similar to all the meetings HL had with s*mon/m*dest about keeping their relationship quiet. The priest then says “be careful, Tim, not everything has to be political”
8 – John jokes that “some of us have real jobs” and it made me think of H’s tiny desk concert
8 – John jokes that “some of us have real jobs” and it made me think of H’s tiny desk concert
8 – John jokes that “some of us have real jobs” and it made me think of H’s tiny desk concert
9 – This was just cute tbh. H & L are such cuddly fuckers, don't tell me you can’t imagine them doing this.
9 – This was just cute tbh. H & L are such cuddly fuckers, don't tell me you can’t imagine them doing this.
9 – This was just cute tbh. H & L are such cuddly fuckers, don't tell me you can’t imagine them doing this.
10 – John’s homophobic dad comes home while they’re having sex and John tells Tim to hide in the closet lmao. Also the scene gave me “lost my trousers” vibes
10 – John’s homophobic dad comes home while they’re having sex and John tells Tim to hide in the closet lmao. Also the scene gave me “lost my trousers” vibes
10 – John’s homophobic dad comes home while they’re having sex and John tells Tim to hide in the closet lmao. Also the scene gave me “lost my trousers” vibes
10 – John’s homophobic dad comes home while they’re having sex and John tells Tim to hide in the closet lmao. Also the scene gave me “lost my trousers” vibes
10 – John’s homophobic dad comes home while they’re having sex and John tells Tim to hide in the closet lmao. Also the scene gave me “lost my trousers” vibes
11 – Their convo w John’s dad does not go too well… reminded me of simon & mgmt again. But John and Tim stand up to him and leave the house so dad's not too happy
11 – Their convo w John’s dad does not go too well… reminded me of simon & mgmt again. But John and Tim stand up to him and leave the house so dad's not too happy
11 – Their convo w John’s dad does not go too well… reminded me of simon & mgmt again. But John and Tim stand up to him and leave the house so dad's not too happy
11 – Their convo w John’s dad does not go too well… reminded me of simon & mgmt again. But John and Tim stand up to him and leave the house so dad's not too happy
12 – "Go. Drive” made me think of WMI director’s cut and Golden
12 – "Go. Drive” made me think of WMI director’s cut and Golden
12 – "Go. Drive” made me think of WMI director’s cut and Golden
12 – "Go. Drive” made me think of WMI director’s cut and Golden
tw // F slur in one pic
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13 – John defends Tim from homophobes in a pub and he gets beat up. Reminds me of how L was always defending/protecting H, even though he seemed to be more smothered by mgmt & took the brunt of the punishment.
tw // F slur in one pic....13 – John defends Tim from homophobes in a pub and he gets beat up. Reminds me of how L was always defending/protecting H, even though he seemed to be more smothered by mgmt & took the brunt of the punishment.
tw // F slur in one pic....13 – John defends Tim from homophobes in a pub and he gets beat up. Reminds me of how L was always defending/protecting H, even though he seemed to be more smothered by mgmt & took the brunt of the punishment.
tw // F slur in one pic....13 – John defends Tim from homophobes in a pub and he gets beat up. Reminds me of how L was always defending/protecting H, even though he seemed to be more smothered by mgmt & took the brunt of the punishment.
tw // F slur in one pic....13 – John defends Tim from homophobes in a pub and he gets beat up. Reminds me of how L was always defending/protecting H, even though he seemed to be more smothered by mgmt & took the brunt of the punishment.
14 – Tim flirts with another boy, John gets jealous and punches him. Obviously reminded me of HL bc they both get SO jealous when people touch their baby haha +
14 – Tim flirts with another boy, John gets jealous and punches him. Obviously reminded me of HL bc they both get SO jealous when people touch their baby haha +
14 – Tim flirts with another boy, John gets jealous and punches him. Obviously reminded me of HL bc they both get SO jealous when people touch their baby haha +
14 – Tim flirts with another boy, John gets jealous and punches him. Obviously reminded me of HL bc they both get SO jealous when people touch their baby haha +
14 – Tim flirts with another boy, John gets jealous and punches him. Obviously reminded me of HL bc they both get SO jealous when people touch their baby haha +
+ Tim begs John, saying sorry bc he’s drunk. This relates to TBSL and Falling “don’t blame the drunk caller” “the drink and my wandering hands” etc. Even though I don’t believe larry ever broke up, this scene fits the narrative of the songs.
I should mention that at this point in the movie, Tim moves away for uni and they break up. Also we find out that they both test positive for AIDS.
15 – Tim’s acting professor (another simon-like character) yells at him to play his scene with a woman; Tim says he can’t. Made me think of DLIBYH mv & the fact that the boys had to always “act” straight/platonic. They were forced into “roles”
15 – Tim’s acting professor (another simon-like character) yells at him to play his scene with a woman; Tim says he can’t. Made me think of DLIBYH mv & the fact that the boys had to always “act” straight/platonic. They were forced into “roles”
15 – Tim’s acting professor (another simon-like character) yells at him to play his scene with a woman; Tim says he can’t. Made me think of DLIBYH mv & the fact that the boys had to always “act” straight/platonic. They were forced into “roles”
15 – Tim’s acting professor (another simon-like character) yells at him to play his scene with a woman; Tim says he can’t. Made me think of DLIBYH mv & the fact that the boys had to always “act” straight/platonic. They were forced into “roles”
16 – Tim goes to a club, the song playing is “Homosapien” by Pete Shelley. Very similar lyrically to Just Like You. +
16 – Tim goes to a club, the song playing is “Homosapien” by Pete Shelley. Very similar lyrically to Just Like You. +
16 – Tim goes to a club, the song playing is “Homosapien” by Pete Shelley. Very similar lyrically to Just Like You. +
16 – Tim goes to a club, the song playing is “Homosapien” by Pete Shelley. Very similar lyrically to Just Like You. +
16 – Tim goes to a club, the song playing is “Homosapien” by Pete Shelley. Very similar lyrically to Just Like You. +
+ Also in this scene, Tim’s got ppl hanging off him and there are MAJOR y&b vibes, and a big parallel to Walls and Lights Up mvs. So either HL read (wrote ?) y&b, HL watched this movie, or both. Or Tim Conigrave was a big stan of H and L before they were even born.
+ Also in this scene, Tim’s got ppl hanging off him and there are MAJOR y&b vibes, and a big parallel to Walls and Lights Up mvs. So either HL read (wrote ?) y&b, HL watched this movie, or both. Or Tim Conigrave was a big stan of H and L before they were even born.
+ Also in this scene, Tim’s got ppl hanging off him and there are MAJOR y&b vibes, and a big parallel to Walls and Lights Up mvs. So either HL read (wrote ?) y&b, HL watched this movie, or both. Or Tim Conigrave was a big stan of H and L before they were even born.
+ Also in this scene, Tim’s got ppl hanging off him and there are MAJOR y&b vibes, and a big parallel to Walls and Lights Up mvs. So either HL read (wrote ?) y&b, HL watched this movie, or both. Or Tim Conigrave was a big stan of H and L before they were even born.
17 – Tim says “I can’t bear that mean drama school, they say I’m too gay, too loud…” H is trapped in a glass closet. Even though he seems so open/free, he’s still got people saying he’s “too ___.” He’s in “drama school” – allowed to be artful and express himself but still ACTING
17 – Tim says “I can’t bear that mean drama school, they say I’m too gay, too loud…” H is trapped in a glass closet. Even though he seems so open/free, he’s still got people saying he’s “too ___.” He’s in “drama school” – allowed to be artful and express himself but still ACTING
17 – Tim says “I can’t bear that mean drama school, they say I’m too gay, too loud…” H is trapped in a glass closet. Even though he seems so open/free, he’s still got people saying he’s “too ___.” He’s in “drama school” – allowed to be artful and express himself but still ACTING
18 – When John says he can’t move to Melbourne yet, Tim says he’ll wait for him. Sort of like the ending of WMI director’s cut, where the woman is waiting for him after all he’s been through. “It was always you" & the idea of 'home' being a person & L isn't as "free" as H yet
18 – When John says he can’t move to Melbourne yet, Tim says he’ll wait for him. Sort of like the ending of WMI director’s cut, where the woman is waiting for him after all he’s been through. “It was always you" & the idea of 'home' being a person & L isn't as "free" as H yet
18 – When John says he can’t move to Melbourne yet, Tim says he’ll wait for him. Sort of like the ending of WMI director’s cut, where the woman is waiting for him after all he’s been through. “It was always you" & the idea of 'home' being a person & L isn't as "free" as H yet
19 – Fancy going ballroom dancing? It's Tim & John’s wedding!!! Reminds me of the release party for Des’s song in y&b. The band is playing a song with lyrics about freedom, which hits way too close to home. This entire scene just resonates with larry's story
19 – Fancy going ballroom dancing? It's Tim & John’s wedding!!! Reminds me of the release party for Des’s song in y&b. The band is playing a song with lyrics about freedom, which hits way too close to home. This entire scene just resonates with larry's story
19 – Fancy going ballroom dancing? It's Tim & John’s wedding!!! Reminds me of the release party for Des’s song in y&b. The band is playing a song with lyrics about freedom, which hits way too close to home. This entire scene just resonates with larry's story
19 – Fancy going ballroom dancing? It's Tim & John’s wedding!!! Reminds me of the release party for Des’s song in y&b. The band is playing a song with lyrics about freedom, which hits way too close to home. This entire scene just resonates with larry's story
19 – Fancy going ballroom dancing? It's Tim & John’s wedding!!! Reminds me of the release party for Des’s song in y&b. The band is playing a song with lyrics about freedom, which hits way too close to home. This entire scene just resonates with larry's story
20 – This isn’t really significant just something I noticed. It’s hard to see in the pics but at one point, Tim is standing by the water and spinning around and the whole thing reminded me a lot of the Adore You mv
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(part 2 will be attached!!)
20 – This isn’t really significant just something I noticed. It’s hard to see in the pics but at one point, Tim is standing by the water and spinning around and the whole thing reminded me a lot of the Adore You mv ..(part 2 will be attached!!)
20 – This isn’t really significant just something I noticed. It’s hard to see in the pics but at one point, Tim is standing by the water and spinning around and the whole thing reminded me a lot of the Adore You mv ..(part 2 will be attached!!)
20 – This isn’t really significant just something I noticed. It’s hard to see in the pics but at one point, Tim is standing by the water and spinning around and the whole thing reminded me a lot of the Adore You mv ..(part 2 will be attached!!)
20 – This isn’t really significant just something I noticed. It’s hard to see in the pics but at one point, Tim is standing by the water and spinning around and the whole thing reminded me a lot of the Adore You mv ..(part 2 will be attached!!)
PART 2 of "Holding the Man" x larry !!
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21 – Honestly just a sweet moment and something I can imagine larry doing. When John gets his head shaved for chemo, Tim just plays around with head and takes pics of him and it reminded me of H and L being cute.
PART 2 of "Holding the Man" x larry !!..21 – Honestly just a sweet moment and something I can imagine larry doing. When John gets his head shaved for chemo, Tim just plays around with head and takes pics of him and it reminded me of H and L being cute.
PART 2 of "Holding the Man" x larry !!..21 – Honestly just a sweet moment and something I can imagine larry doing. When John gets his head shaved for chemo, Tim just plays around with head and takes pics of him and it reminded me of H and L being cute.
PART 2 of "Holding the Man" x larry !!..21 – Honestly just a sweet moment and something I can imagine larry doing. When John gets his head shaved for chemo, Tim just plays around with head and takes pics of him and it reminded me of H and L being cute.
PART 2 of "Holding the Man" x larry !!..21 – Honestly just a sweet moment and something I can imagine larry doing. When John gets his head shaved for chemo, Tim just plays around with head and takes pics of him and it reminded me of H and L being cute.
22 – John’s dad visits. John can't talk bc he got lung surgery. This has a double meaning & relates to our boys bc they’ve never been able to speak the truth. (I am NOT trying to minimize what John went through as a victim of AIDS & cancer, but the parallel is important to note)
22 – John’s dad visits. John can't talk bc he got lung surgery. This has a double meaning & relates to our boys bc they’ve never been able to speak the truth. (I am NOT trying to minimize what John went through as a victim of AIDS & cancer, but the parallel is important to note)
22 – John’s dad visits. John can't talk bc he got lung surgery. This has a double meaning & relates to our boys bc they’ve never been able to speak the truth. (I am NOT trying to minimize what John went through as a victim of AIDS & cancer, but the parallel is important to note)
23 – John’s condition is really bad. Tim is reminiscing about when they met, and it reminded me of Too Young. “I’ve been looking back a lot lately, me and you is all I’ve ever known.” Also wbk louis has amazing eyelashes. I included “all my admiration” to make you cry :)
23 – John’s condition is really bad. Tim is reminiscing about when they met, and it reminded me of Too Young. “I’ve been looking back a lot lately, me and you is all I’ve ever known.” Also wbk louis has amazing eyelashes. I included “all my admiration” to make you cry :)
23 – John’s condition is really bad. Tim is reminiscing about when they met, and it reminded me of Too Young. “I’ve been looking back a lot lately, me and you is all I’ve ever known.” Also wbk louis has amazing eyelashes. I included “all my admiration” to make you cry :)
23 – John’s condition is really bad. Tim is reminiscing about when they met, and it reminded me of Too Young. “I’ve been looking back a lot lately, me and you is all I’ve ever known.” Also wbk louis has amazing eyelashes. I included “all my admiration” to make you cry :)
23 – John’s condition is really bad. Tim is reminiscing about when they met, and it reminded me of Too Young. “I’ve been looking back a lot lately, me and you is all I’ve ever known.” Also wbk louis has amazing eyelashes. I included “all my admiration” to make you cry :)
24 – John’s funeral. Super sad & absolutely beautiful scene. The homophobic dad made the priest call Tim his “friend” which has obvious connections to larry and their ~mutual respect~
24 – John’s funeral. Super sad & absolutely beautiful scene. The homophobic dad made the priest call Tim his “friend” which has obvious connections to larry and their ~mutual respect~
24 – John’s funeral. Super sad & absolutely beautiful scene. The homophobic dad made the priest call Tim his “friend” which has obvious connections to larry and their ~mutual respect~
24 – John’s funeral. Super sad & absolutely beautiful scene. The homophobic dad made the priest call Tim his “friend” which has obvious connections to larry and their ~mutual respect~
25 – Okay so cris and I LOST IT at this part. Tim has moved to Italy and writes postcards to John (who’s dead). Ofc this made me think of tts and H’s golden campaign. Also “garden” is a bit of a sensitive word…
25 – Okay so cris and I LOST IT at this part. Tim has moved to Italy and writes postcards to John (who’s dead). Ofc this made me think of tts and H’s golden campaign. Also “garden” is a bit of a sensitive word…
25 – Okay so cris and I LOST IT at this part. Tim has moved to Italy and writes postcards to John (who’s dead). Ofc this made me think of tts and H’s golden campaign. Also “garden” is a bit of a sensitive word…
25 – Okay so cris and I LOST IT at this part. Tim has moved to Italy and writes postcards to John (who’s dead). Ofc this made me think of tts and H’s golden campaign. Also “garden” is a bit of a sensitive word…
25 – Okay so cris and I LOST IT at this part. Tim has moved to Italy and writes postcards to John (who’s dead). Ofc this made me think of tts and H’s golden campaign. Also “garden” is a bit of a sensitive word…
26 – In one of his postcards, Tim describes visiting an island. I only included a few lines but the description was very similar to how mediawhore (harry ?) described fair isle.
26 – In one of his postcards, Tim describes visiting an island. I only included a few lines but the description was very similar to how mediawhore (harry ?) described fair isle.
26 – In one of his postcards, Tim describes visiting an island. I only included a few lines but the description was very similar to how mediawhore (harry ?) described fair isle.
26 – In one of his postcards, Tim describes visiting an island. I only included a few lines but the description was very similar to how mediawhore (harry ?) described fair isle.
27 – Water is cleansing, freeing, calming, etc. Parallels here to H and L’s mvs and also tts if you wanna be particular. Water is an important motif in this movie as well as in HL’s mvs.
27 – Water is cleansing, freeing, calming, etc. Parallels here to H and L’s mvs and also tts if you wanna be particular. Water is an important motif in this movie as well as in HL’s mvs.
27 – Water is cleansing, freeing, calming, etc. Parallels here to H and L’s mvs and also tts if you wanna be particular. Water is an important motif in this movie as well as in HL’s mvs.
28 - When Tim comes out of the water, he finally gets an answer to the question in the opening scene of the movie (he couldn’t remember where John was at the dinner party bc his AIDS is giving him dementia). This isn’t anything super significant to larry, just where my mind went.
28 - When Tim comes out of the water, he finally gets an answer to the question in the opening scene of the movie (he couldn’t remember where John was at the dinner party bc his AIDS is giving him dementia). This isn’t anything super significant to larry, just where my mind went.
28 - When Tim comes out of the water, he finally gets an answer to the question in the opening scene of the movie (he couldn’t remember where John was at the dinner party bc his AIDS is giving him dementia). This isn’t anything super significant to larry, just where my mind went.
29 – This bit of Tim’s postcards is TTS AS FUCK. Like,, works at the hotel?? Beautiful?? Occupies harry’s dreams?? Sounds like fair isle louis to me. Also in the movie this beautiful boy helps Tim write parts of the postcards in Italian.
29 – This bit of Tim’s postcards is TTS AS FUCK. Like,, works at the hotel?? Beautiful?? Occupies harry’s dreams?? Sounds like fair isle louis to me. Also in the movie this beautiful boy helps Tim write parts of the postcards in Italian.
29 – This bit of Tim’s postcards is TTS AS FUCK. Like,, works at the hotel?? Beautiful?? Occupies harry’s dreams?? Sounds like fair isle louis to me. Also in the movie this beautiful boy helps Tim write parts of the postcards in Italian.
29 – This bit of Tim’s postcards is TTS AS FUCK. Like,, works at the hotel?? Beautiful?? Occupies harry’s dreams?? Sounds like fair isle louis to me. Also in the movie this beautiful boy helps Tim write parts of the postcards in Italian.
30 – In the last scene, Tim is finishing up narrating his postcards and he rides through the streets of Italy on, I shit you not, a blue vespa. Do I even need to explain? Motorcycles are very present in multiple of HL’s mvs and ofc there’s the iconic blue vespa larry pic.
30 – In the last scene, Tim is finishing up narrating his postcards and he rides through the streets of Italy on, I shit you not, a blue vespa. Do I even need to explain? Motorcycles are very present in multiple of HL’s mvs and ofc there’s the iconic blue vespa larry pic.
30 – In the last scene, Tim is finishing up narrating his postcards and he rides through the streets of Italy on, I shit you not, a blue vespa. Do I even need to explain? Motorcycles are very present in multiple of HL’s mvs and ofc there’s the iconic blue vespa larry pic.
30 – In the last scene, Tim is finishing up narrating his postcards and he rides through the streets of Italy on, I shit you not, a blue vespa. Do I even need to explain? Motorcycles are very present in multiple of HL’s mvs and ofc there’s the iconic blue vespa larry pic.
30 – In the last scene, Tim is finishing up narrating his postcards and he rides through the streets of Italy on, I shit you not, a blue vespa. Do I even need to explain? Motorcycles are very present in multiple of HL’s mvs and ofc there’s the iconic blue vespa larry pic.
End: Tim says “ci vedremo lassu, angelo” (see you up there, angel). He dies and we all cry. Beautiful movie based on a true story. RIP Tim Conigrave & John Caleo. In conclusion, H and L 10000% watched and loved this movie and cuddled/cried to it together :) Thanks for reading!!!
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