Firstly, this sweeping claim that people who identify as trans "always worked in advancing the equal rights and acceptance of all " etc is absolutely batshit. They're not a monolith, the group includes people with all kinds of opinions and beliefs. >
In fact if you look at the (only one I'm aware of) research into attitudes of people who identify as trans you'll find that not only are they less liberal than "cis" women, they're also less liberal than "cis" men. >
Obviously, this an extremely subjective claim. Lots of feminists, LGB activists and others believe some of the beliefs currently dominant in transactivism roll back the acceptance of female people as full human beings and policy/legal demands/changes roll back our rights. >
This is obviously a dig at @Ire_LGBAlliance and grassroots feminist groups like @TCDFFT though they didn't have the ovaries to name them. I assume that's because they know accusing feminists and LGB people analysing their oppression and fighting for change of "bigotry" is bs. >
It's interesting too, the disingenuous way they frame this. No one is fighting "gender expression" or even really "defending biology" (it is what it is). What they're doing is rejecting the idea "gender identity" is something everyone has or that it's politically meaningful. >
It's weird how no on ever just acknowledges that and rather builds up all this drama and hyperbole around it. I'd also like to see how they back this statement up because it honestly reads like they've just done a straw poll of their mates. >
Two points here. 1) they seem to be suggesting that grassroots groups are a problem and their voices speaking from power are more important and 2) a load of male run orgs have labelled feminists "pseudo-feminists". I mean, really? 🤦‍♀️ Do better. >
Um dudes. You don't get to decide who's a feminist or not, esp when it comes to radical feminism which so few of you can get your head round. We reject your male centred idea of inclusivity and oh god are we used to those repping male power telling us we're misinformed. >
Disagreement is not vitriol .Some people don't believe in gender identity. Some people want to ensure female people are acknowledged as human beings. That is neither hate nor transphobia. 🙄You reducing it to that is suspect though. Like, don't you have any real comeback? >
Damn right these organisations don't represent the "legitimate organisations and signers of this letter". They're doing the grassroots work to achieve female and LGB liberation whilst you're engaged in some power play discourse to prop up existing power inequalities. >
Imagine defining "harassment" as people sharing their views and working to support marginalised groups as they see fit rather than writing loads of open letters and articles to demonise that group of people and using your profile and power to demand they are silenced. Bizarre. >
As I often like to point out radical feminist is a left wing movement because capitalism is a patriarchal construction and seeking the liberation of female people is not "causing harm and division" though male centric have long positioned it as such. Just more baseless smears. >
Not fringe but otherwise yes. For reasons that are nothing to do with hate or prejudice and everything to do with equality and wellbeing. These authors really need to open their minds and shake off their prejudices. >
Er nope. It's not a "far right trope" to believe gender is a social phenomenon rooted in power rather than innate/fixed. I think you'd find those suggesting it is (probably you) are far more aligned with right wing conservative views. That's why you're getting so much opposition>
Feminists and LGB activists are not standing "against trans, women’s and gay rights". This is just a baseless claim. They disagree with you on how that's achieved and believe you are the people standing in the way of equality/liberation. Get some integrity. >
Fuck those women that are female centred and want to end our oppression by males though, right??? >
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