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I tweeted this earlier today before my shift just after
I had read the thread. A mutual had DMed it to me. I was debating how best to respond to it. The problem with such a "fact check" if we can call it that is how to avoid attacking the messenger instead of the message itself.
I had read the thread. A mutual had DMed it to me. I was debating how best to respond to it. The problem with such a "fact check" if we can call it that is how to avoid attacking the messenger instead of the message itself.
But the more I thought about it the more I realized the messenger needs to be talked about as well.
Because...
Credibility
That& #39;s what it all comes down to
In the age of misinformation, the credibility of certain people is higher than others and with that comes responsibility
Because...
Credibility
That& #39;s what it all comes down to
In the age of misinformation, the credibility of certain people is higher than others and with that comes responsibility
When someone with a famous name, or 10s of thousands of followers on social media, or someone with a "Dr." in their name posts something there is an inherent in built credibility to that message
I too enjoy that privilege I won& #39;t deny that.
I too enjoy that privilege I won& #39;t deny that.
So with that in mind, I thought I would try to understand and explain in my own way why I feel this thread is extremely problematic. But I decided I would tackle it both the message and the respective messengers as well. The rest is up to you to decide. These are my views.
So it all started with this thread. Bit of a doomsday "why you should avoid.." title but let& #39;s leave that for later shall we?
"The Oxford Vaccine or ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine (AZD1222) was developed at the Jenner Institute of the Oxford University in the UK" https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957545808384000?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
"The Oxford Vaccine or ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine (AZD1222) was developed at the Jenner Institute of the Oxford University in the UK" https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957545808384000?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
"It is licensed from British drugmaker AstraZeneca & is currently undergoing phase 3 clinical trials worldwide. The Oxford vaccine candidate is seen as one of the most promising within the race to produce a safe effective jab against COVID-19."
This is all from their own media spiel hence why I put in the ""
Meanwhile Serum Institute of India are in partnership with AstraZeneca to bring it to India as soon as possible.
So far we are on the same page, except for the why we "should avoid"
but let& #39;s get into the thread
Meanwhile Serum Institute of India are in partnership with AstraZeneca to bring it to India as soon as possible.
So far we are on the same page, except for the why we "should avoid"
but let& #39;s get into the thread
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Famous name
automatically we sub consciously begin to feel that this thread is important. It has some CREDIBILTY. I mean it is a Kennedy after all.
But hang on... "to all my patients"
was he a doctor? I dont know, let& #39;s Google https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957548463386626?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
Famous name
automatically we sub consciously begin to feel that this thread is important. It has some CREDIBILTY. I mean it is a Kennedy after all.
But hang on... "to all my patients"
was he a doctor? I dont know, let& #39;s Google https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957548463386626?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
so a few seconds later a quick Google search reveals...
oh dear...
not a doctor, but a lawyer
and a "vocal anti-vaccinationist"
not off to a good start at all are we..
#AntiVaxxer
But we are simply attacking the messenger aren& #39;t we?
Let& #39;s try and read what he has to say.
oh dear...
not a doctor, but a lawyer
and a "vocal anti-vaccinationist"
not off to a good start at all are we..
#AntiVaxxer
But we are simply attacking the messenger aren& #39;t we?
Let& #39;s try and read what he has to say.
I& #39;m going to use screen shots from now on to cover multiple tweets.
Lots of big science-y words there
2nd screen shot is from a friend whose response would be the typical average person reaction
Sorry (you know who you are) for using your DM to me
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Lots of big science-y words there
2nd screen shot is from a friend whose response would be the typical average person reaction
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First of all a big fat NO
Bunch of half truth and falsehoods already.
Let& #39;s start with the basics
There are different approaches to creating a vaccine, and different groups are trying different methods.
Here are the different methods
source - https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/making-vaccines/prevent-covid">https://www.chop.edu/centers-p...
Bunch of half truth and falsehoods already.
Let& #39;s start with the basics
There are different approaches to creating a vaccine, and different groups are trying different methods.
Here are the different methods
source - https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/making-vaccines/prevent-covid">https://www.chop.edu/centers-p...
So as you can see there are different methods.
Which method is Oxford using? Well they explained it on their own page.
They are trying to develop a vaccine using an adenovirus vector platform. No mention of mRNA anywhere.
here - https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/about ">https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/about&quo...
Which method is Oxford using? Well they explained it on their own page.
They are trying to develop a vaccine using an adenovirus vector platform. No mention of mRNA anywhere.
here - https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/about ">https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/about&quo...
In the meantime Pfizer published results of its phase 1 and phase 2 clinical trials for its mRNA-based vaccine platform in the journal Nature. Moderna is now entering phase 3 trials for its mRNA platform for Covid-19
source - https://www.vox.com/2020/8/13/21359025/coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19-moderna-oxford-mrna-adenovirus">https://www.vox.com/2020/8/13...
source - https://www.vox.com/2020/8/13/21359025/coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19-moderna-oxford-mrna-adenovirus">https://www.vox.com/2020/8/13...
But what about the fears regarding mRNA vaccine?
Loads of bull shit to sift through here
But the bottom line is, mRNA or any such thing, CANNOT interfere with your genetics.
Loads of bull shit to sift through here
But the bottom line is, mRNA or any such thing, CANNOT interfere with your genetics.
A human being once fully formed and born, has fixed genetic material. It is what gives you your hair colour and eye colour or how tall or short you are. It is FIXED. PERMANENTLY.
That& #39;s why now matter how hard I try I will never be as tall as the legend Shaquille O& #39;Neal
That& #39;s why now matter how hard I try I will never be as tall as the legend Shaquille O& #39;Neal
Our genetic material is fixed till we die. There are studies in gene manipulation on going, but as off now most countries have been gene manipulation of human beings. However gene maipulation of plants and animals are on going. GM crops for example I& #39;m sure you have heard.
But don& #39;t take my word for it, take it from a virologist. Someone who studies viruses, DNA and mRNA etc for a living. This thread is superbly written. Go read it and then come back here . Better than m explaining how mRNA vaccines work. https://twitter.com/Subhashitani1/status/1322992324557889541?s=20">https://twitter.com/Subhashit...
so already within the first few tweets we have some huge huge problems and lies and misconceptions
is there really any need to push on further?
ok ok if you say so
don& #39;t blame me if your brain feels fried after all this bullshit
is there really any need to push on further?
ok ok if you say so
don& #39;t blame me if your brain feels fried after all this bullshit
oooh now this tweet
this tweet is a doozy
remember earlier I said your genetic make up is fixed & permanent? Well here he is actually saying the same thing.
EXCEPT
these defects occur in pregnancy during the embryonic stage & unfortunately is "forever" https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957578121273344?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
this tweet is a doozy
remember earlier I said your genetic make up is fixed & permanent? Well here he is actually saying the same thing.
EXCEPT
these defects occur in pregnancy during the embryonic stage & unfortunately is "forever" https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957578121273344?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
this is a fact of our biology and there are some people thinking about how to reverse these defects in the emryonic stage itself
but unfortunately human gene manipulation is banned as i mentioned
in fact one doctor did try
remember him? https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-chinese-scientist-broke-the-rules-to-create-the-first-gene-edited-babies-11557506697">https://www.wsj.com/articles/...
but unfortunately human gene manipulation is banned as i mentioned
in fact one doctor did try
remember him? https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-chinese-scientist-broke-the-rules-to-create-the-first-gene-edited-babies-11557506697">https://www.wsj.com/articles/...
anyways lets get back to the thread
no it doesnt
already explained above https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957581854203909?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
no it doesnt
already explained above https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957581854203909?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
typical opinion of an anti vaxxer https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957586002370560?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
Ok a doctor& #39;s name thrown in
more credibility
let& #39;s check him out
Wolfgang Wodarg is a German physician and politician for Social Democratic Party of Germany https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957589781475331?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
more credibility
let& #39;s check him out
Wolfgang Wodarg is a German physician and politician for Social Democratic Party of Germany https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957589781475331?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
I couldn& #39;t find a single source of him saying those words but I did find this article of him being part of a committee where he was questioning the WHO response to the pandemic and was asking about the role of big pharma in making the vaccines
source - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2010/01/european-hearing-airs-who-pandemic-response-critics-charges">https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...
source - https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2010/01/european-hearing-airs-who-pandemic-response-critics-charges">https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...
no source for any of this
and by now I& #39;m too lazy to seach for it myelf
but we already saw the Oxford vaccine is NOT mRNA so none of this is valid anyways..
and by now I& #39;m too lazy to seach for it myelf
but we already saw the Oxford vaccine is NOT mRNA so none of this is valid anyways..
this tweet is ACTUALLY TRUE
probably the only truth in this whole thread so far
this is exactly how mRNA works
not how this is put at the end after already scaring you to wits end by all the above bullshit https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957594982375426?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
probably the only truth in this whole thread so far
this is exactly how mRNA works
not how this is put at the end after already scaring you to wits end by all the above bullshit https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957594982375426?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
let& #39;s move on to the Q&A section?
True https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957597448658945?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
True https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957597448658945?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
Bull shit
there is NO CURE hence why we are looking for a vaccine to prevent people from getting the infection
Once you are infected the body& #39;s has to fight the virus and the medications we provide are SUPPORTIVE only
This is virus infection treatment 101 https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957599851991040?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
there is NO CURE hence why we are looking for a vaccine to prevent people from getting the infection
Once you are infected the body& #39;s has to fight the virus and the medications we provide are SUPPORTIVE only
This is virus infection treatment 101 https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957599851991040?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
more anti vaxxer talking points https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957603110969345?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
never heard of this group
please link me something about them https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957605967310848?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
please link me something about them https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957605967310848?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
5. from the first bloody page of WHO webpage on coviv19https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="🤦‍♂️" title="Mann schlägt sich die Hand vors Gesicht" aria-label="Emoji: Mann schlägt sich die Hand vors Gesicht">
source - https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
6.">https://www.who.int/emergenci... true
https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957609742131202?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
source - https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
6.">https://www.who.int/emergenci... true
https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957609742131202?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
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2% of all infected people will dieis what all doctors and scientists agree upon
and so far the global numbers seem to be matching
there is no "appropriate medicine" -"do as your doctor says" is good advice
"strengthen the immune system" is bull shit https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957613013688320?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
and so far the global numbers seem to be matching
there is no "appropriate medicine" -"do as your doctor says" is good advice
"strengthen the immune system" is bull shit https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957613013688320?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
"strengthen the immune system" is bull shit
here is John Oliver talking about the scam that is "supplements" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA0wKeokWUU&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight">https://www.youtube.com/watch...
here is John Oliver talking about the scam that is "supplements" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA0wKeokWUU&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight">https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Unfortunately this is true
and here in India this discrepancy is far far worse https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957620647399425?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
and here in India this discrepancy is far far worse https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322957620647399425?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
So what is your conclusion after all this?
Oh wait there is one little thing left.
Seems our lovely friend is a PhD research student in Cambridge University
A Molecular Biologist no less
The whole world knows about the hated rivalry between Cambridge and Oxford don& #39;t we?
Oh wait there is one little thing left.
Seems our lovely friend is a PhD research student in Cambridge University
A Molecular Biologist no less
The whole world knows about the hated rivalry between Cambridge and Oxford don& #39;t we?
surely this can& #39;t just be that
dumping on your rival? for what ulterior motive?
oh hand on a tick
seems Cambridge is working on their own vaccine
and our PhD is maybe probably part of this team? https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322917252421672967?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
dumping on your rival? for what ulterior motive?
oh hand on a tick
seems Cambridge is working on their own vaccine
and our PhD is maybe probably part of this team? https://twitter.com/candinam/status/1322917252421672967?s=20">https://twitter.com/candinam/...
I& #39;m sure to be blocked by her at the end of all this
thank you for your time
and
Dear @candinam,
sorry for calling you out like this
but I couldn& #39;t just stand by and let so much bullshit slide on a Monday
live long and prosperhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="🖖" title="„Live long and prosper!“" aria-label="Emoji: „Live long and prosper!“">
thank you for your time
and
Dear @candinam,
sorry for calling you out like this
but I couldn& #39;t just stand by and let so much bullshit slide on a Monday
live long and prosper
Easier to copy paste WhatsApp forwards
much more effort to disprove them
"a lie travels around the world twice before the truth has a chance to put its shoes on"
much more effort to disprove them
"a lie travels around the world twice before the truth has a chance to put its shoes on"
i just realized the original tweet never got attached to the first tweet of this thread
i& #39;m such a klutz! https://twitter.com/just1doctorwala/status/1323107465227980800?s=20">https://twitter.com/just1doct...
i& #39;m such a klutz! https://twitter.com/just1doctorwala/status/1323107465227980800?s=20">https://twitter.com/just1doct...
let me end by making one final comment
I& #39;m not going to tell you to take or not take these vaccines
all i am going to tell you is
we practice evidence based medicine
studies/trials are on going
let them all publish their findings
then we can all make a sound judgment!https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="🙏" title="Gefaltete Hände" aria-label="Emoji: Gefaltete Hände">
I& #39;m not going to tell you to take or not take these vaccines
all i am going to tell you is
we practice evidence based medicine
studies/trials are on going
let them all publish their findings
then we can all make a sound judgment!
Well well well https://twitter.com/GHS/status/1334921923155947523?s=19">https://twitter.com/GHS/statu...
