Thread by @TonnieRose3, well in the manga it was stated that mundus was going to [...]

well in the manga it was stated that mundus was going to merge both the human world and the demon world which they are both universes which means he was going to merge two different space-time continuum which should make a casual Mundus low Multiversal

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MdWFFnFQN248truCJcZVyNN3HiPFgN_D/view?usp=drivesdk https://twitter.com/whowouldwin13/status/1322193297037733888

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LbSm71AxdfKBwr5sb40FEgGl7hLMqAcT/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KfSrp98iOswoPJOXgbg5RibZz28rQ8Dp/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aR79w8f-o1AnPNQ4a_p_f2Ut5WY8oeiC/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19t870MiSaZZdW773MPG6VbjId1Bt8uB_/view?usp=drivesdk

Even sparda sealed the demon world w/ his own power

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHxUtHkDrkqmt85nVFQjjZadutWSK22K/view?usp=drivesdk

There’s more

And also its stated that he can creates an entire universe effortlessly which been stated by author and in the guidebooks and even in the manga its stated that demons are reliant on their names and mundus in Latin means the world so it won't be suprising to see how did it in DMC1

https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/745496116272103424

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18k_CJ5gi1pZeeijyBcFMEsZad3E3TrnV/view?usp=drivesdk (btw I know this is the same page tho this one is more to explain it because in the original translation many things in the manga was unclear and confusing but in both of them it explains the same thing so yeah)

https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/745496116272103424

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G7tdJDANbV2dZHseDcIHBjMJdO1AoxyF/view?usp=drivesdk (here is the original page the way the he explains it was different but the meaning is the same of how demons reliant on their names)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dPk9SOKz6Pk0NR-db7xp35abMeFQU2Mi/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18itssYxZX0DSyCF1SB7Vt5bAYoHNmggA/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10tHKMyup50M5Br1Ffo_uh5LVZBK8b4i4/view?usp=drivesdk

And argosax mere existence was distorting space and time and warping the past and the future

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o7ihq7XRcm3NTYD6cVtZFvb6CidgOmhR/view?usp=drivesdk]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y6xcQuXkOUR_jCPe0JOmYfuBk-II3YfN/view?usp=drivesdk

Even inferior demons like nightmare can destroy the entire demon world

https://drive.google.com/file/d/167-sgbDc64A6OnkscHIPOk12hYlvJVB0/view?usp=drivesdk

Also if the question is « why is the collateral damage never that crazy » well the same can be said for verses like DBZ, they can destroy universes and stuff to but they aren’t focused on that so their focusing that power into attacks to hurt a person. Same principle here. Now:

Created the beastheads which is the embodiment of the past,the present and the future and in the same scan it's stated that anyone who possess the energy of demon world will have limitless power

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AgNLSflE4ZhPyhoQ5hzvRRgQCSPE1xyh/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_nWgufpmzjZ9R-7xK9KRCOczlZSA4mfW/view?usp=drivesdk

And they even can effects parallel universes like how they brought dante from his original universe

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-RYNSr3ONIH3B0FcuO9HjJeI0FUU490w/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1964IksAVE2WmSL2VCUUqR1KMyW6_VDO6/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19in8uczgCA1MPYq2DG9sFt0kOQyxrLHN/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19_VjUbOPdW3RYku758qqymPxRgj4katU/view?usp=drivesdk

And dante stated that by just absorbing small portion of the beastheads power he stated it's enough to reshape the reality itself which includes the parallel universes

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cnST27MLUcFlpABpRHJAFIGekUlDhwGX/view?usp=drivesdk

Also in this scan again on top of mundus meaning it's explain that the human world is an entire universe

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10tHKMyup50M5Br1Ffo_uh5LVZBK8b4i4/view?usp=drivesdk

He is capable of creating dimensions that the god of all time and space can't entire or reach

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-A4vizjViqFA7mtDBgB4NSjLgFoaOcfz/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-EV_rXUIRacxav0-eTE0FCZoY6x3EDUP/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-KRBvHksvyjBiE17QNEYl7HTeAnj_N8b/view?usp=drivesdk

And now that means that mundus is universal+ to atleast low multiversal because here is going even further we all know that dante in his base in DMC2 can easily stomp the likes of argosax and the beastheads

Almost done. Promise

So what's the point? Is mundus is actually far higher than argosax and like him and of course you‘re probably asking how?

Because we all know that mundus never showed his true power in the devil may cry series or you could say it's sealed and weakened after the war with sparda and DMC 5 dante is in his SDT state that he possibly surpassed sparda and mundus scales to sparda. Why?

because mundus is the only demon that he can't kill so he sealed him(and argosax doesn't count because sparda already sealed his power before fighting argosax unlike mundus who fought him with his full power)

Well let's see from the beginning

DMC2 and 4 dante is low multiversal in his base

Then you have urizen who stomped dante even in his DT form and then he did that while sitting on his throne.

Dante then absorbed devil sword sparda and rebellion into his body

Which I won’t give a multiplier for its exponential

And it seems that dante also absorbed SDT after the first time he transformed into it because even after urizen ate the fruit from the demonic tree and even so dante in his base form was enough to stomp him it's just like the idea of how goku when he absorbed the god ki.

His base form became as strong as super sayian god so what I mean is that dante’s base is as strong as SDT for the first time possibly even higher and which means his transformation will also increase vastly which means in his SDT or possibly lower he will be multiversal

So if it's possible that SDT dante surpass sparda who mundus scales to him then mundus is also multiversal

Nw onto Speed:

First that the beastheads have yanked or removed dante from space and time and dante still can exist and move there so that’s infinite speed

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qqKKtj_YR0bVFAnkK0J2wugl8xa0Tgju/view?usp=drivesdk

And also Chen has stated that he had no concepts of time and space which means he can exist and he is unbound by it which is Immeasurable speed feat

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HL70rhAHkrluw3335Py-y6RIxUwFvN45/view?usp=drivesdk

And this is that the furies are fast enough to travel and jump through space-time with their raw speed alone which is another Immeasurable speed feat

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_7ZL9JHvbeuHIUUYkK4FuCX1aEzHJ-EC/view?usp=drivesdk

So mundus would have infinte to Immeasurable speed yeah really impressive. Dante and Vergil scale btw

So imo I think there’s higher evidence for Vergil winning this low mid diff

Sorry for the BIBLE I dropped but a lot of you are saying végéta with no real reason. Funny. Almost like you don’t know how or if he can win.

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