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If Irish media insist on giving this "herd immunity" guy a platform in the interests of balance, there should be fact checking at the bottom of his articles because some of his claims are stupidly misleading.
Fine I'll do it myself. /1 https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/martin-feeley-hospital-admissions-don-t-justify-pressing-the-panic-button-1.4390870
Fine I'll do it myself. /1 https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/martin-feeley-hospital-admissions-don-t-justify-pressing-the-panic-button-1.4390870
Quote:
"The HSE published (December 2018) the recorded data which showed a Flu mortality (CFR) of 2.14 per cent; that is almost 10-fold higher than Covid-19. Undoubtedly, this is an overestimate but there was a vaccine"
Gonna file this under "completely misleading bullshit".
"The HSE published (December 2018) the recorded data which showed a Flu mortality (CFR) of 2.14 per cent; that is almost 10-fold higher than Covid-19. Undoubtedly, this is an overestimate but there was a vaccine"
Gonna file this under "completely misleading bullshit".
2018 Flu season:
Notified cases: 11,889
Notified deaths: 255
CFR: 2.14%
Dr. Feeley is then saying this Flu CFR is 10-fold higher than Covid-19 fatality rate.
Interesting argument, and by interesting, I mean embarrassing sleight of hand trickery.
Notified cases: 11,889
Notified deaths: 255
CFR: 2.14%
Dr. Feeley is then saying this Flu CFR is 10-fold higher than Covid-19 fatality rate.
Interesting argument, and by interesting, I mean embarrassing sleight of hand trickery.
He isn't comparing the 2018 Flu season CFR in Ireland to the 2020 Covid19 CFR in Ireland to get the "10-fold higher CFR for Flu than Covid".
He's taking an apple and comparing it to a chimpanzee, which isn't a fruit.
Covid19:
Cases: 58,067
Deaths: 1,885
CFR: 3.24%
He's taking an apple and comparing it to a chimpanzee, which isn't a fruit.
Covid19:
Cases: 58,067
Deaths: 1,885
CFR: 3.24%
What he is doing is taking a WHO estimate of global Covid19 cases and comparing the notified CFR of Flu in 2018 to a theoretical IFR estimate of Covid19 in 2020.
That is misleading BS and saying "it's an overestimate" doesn't change that the construct of the sentence.
That is misleading BS and saying "it's an overestimate" doesn't change that the construct of the sentence.
Tests completed in Ireland:
Covid19, 2020: 1,538,215
Influenza, 2018: 17,692
Slight difference of 1.5 million tests.
Reason the CFR was so high in 2018 Flu season is because countries do not test for Influenza at scale, as GP's and hospitals don't find it critical information.
Covid19, 2020: 1,538,215
Influenza, 2018: 17,692
Slight difference of 1.5 million tests.
Reason the CFR was so high in 2018 Flu season is because countries do not test for Influenza at scale, as GP's and hospitals don't find it critical information.
If a patient presents in a&e in severe respiratory distress, such as pneumonia or ARDS, no doctor has "Flu" at the top of their mind.
It's not as clinically useful to know if Influenza or rhinovirus or adenovirus was the underlying virus that led to pneumonia.
It's not as clinically useful to know if Influenza or rhinovirus or adenovirus was the underlying virus that led to pneumonia.
So when Feeley says the CFR was "almost 10-times higher in 2018 for Flu", he is:
a) Taking the fact we don't test for Flu and manipulating it.
b) Comparing a CFR to an IFR, which are completely different things.
a) Taking the fact we don't test for Flu and manipulating it.
b) Comparing a CFR to an IFR, which are completely different things.
It is universally accepted the fatality rate for Covid19 is massively higher than Influenza.
I feel we don't need to hear from these type of guys but if others want to hear from him, no problem.
At least counter his claims and don't leave it to me to do it on Twitter.
I feel we don't need to hear from these type of guys but if others want to hear from him, no problem.
At least counter his claims and don't leave it to me to do it on Twitter.
Europe is under the pump in a big way.
Hospitals and ICU's are filling up rapidly, in Belgium, Czech Republic, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Switzerland, Italy and many others.
At current rates, more will die in Europe this Winter Flu season (Oct-Mar) than died in Spring.
Hospitals and ICU's are filling up rapidly, in Belgium, Czech Republic, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Switzerland, Italy and many others.
At current rates, more will die in Europe this Winter Flu season (Oct-Mar) than died in Spring.
I don't understand why we need to hear from these people denying objective reality.
The "nothing to see here" or "just let young people get the Covid" types.
We've heard enough from them, but for God's sake fact check their claims.
The "nothing to see here" or "just let young people get the Covid" types.
We've heard enough from them, but for God's sake fact check their claims.
