Day 3 of Janner hearings of #CSAinquiry behind closed doors ALL DAY: three Leicestershire officers who were on first police probe into Labour MP Greville Janner in 1991 as part of Frank Beck case... DCI Kelvyn Ashby, Ch Supt Graham Carr, Det Supt Tim Garner.

#SecretCSAinquiry
DCI Kelvyn Ashby was SIO on police probe into Frank Beck, who ran a Leicestershire children’s home.

He investigated allegations against Greville Janner, then a Labour MP, in 1991 as part of that case.

He is giving evidence behind closed doors at #CSAinquiry. #SecretCSAinquiry
Police in this first probe into Greville Janner passed a file to the CPS, which decided against pressing any charge against the then MP.

Janner was named as an abuser by a witness at Frank Beck’s trial.

Janner denied the claims in Parliament. Many MPs spoke in his support.
Even though much is in the public domain about this first investigation, #CSAinquiry has banned any discussion of it in Janner hearings – even treating the NAME of the police operation as secret.

This is why DCI Kelvyn Ashby is testifying behind closed doors. #SecretCSAinquiry
However, I AM able to tell you what DCI Kelvyn Ashby has to say about the first police probe into Greville Janner MP in 1991.

Notwithstanding this Orwellian attempt by the #CSAinquiry to delete it from history.

And that is because he has spoken about it in PUBLIC…
Lord Janner’s friends often claim that he has consistently denied allegations of child sexual abuse.

This is another re-writing of history. AKA another falsehood.

DCI Kelvyn Ashby revealed that Janner DECLINED to answer questions when interviewed in 1991…
DCI Kelvyn Ashby, former Leicestershire Police officer, a detective inspector at the time, said that in 1991 Greville Janner, then a Labour MP, repeatedly answered “no comment” when police interviewed him about allegations of child sexual abuse.
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said that after investigating the allegations of child sexual abuse against Greville Janner he and colleagues had wanted to arrest the then Labour MP and search his property.

But they were blocked.
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said: “The message came back from above - and I can't say who because I don't know – ‘This man is an MP, you can't arrest him, you have to invite him in for interview.’

“I think that was an honest decision, and was not due to any outside influence.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby explained that, instead of arresting Greville Janner as police wanted, they were forced merely to arrange to interview the then Labour MP under caution.

"We contacted him, and invited him to a police station in Leicester to answer allegations of child abuse.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said: “We had a long list of questions to ask him [Greville Janner].

“He came with a legal representative and we went through the interview process, which was recorded.

“Every question we asked, he said he was acting on legal advice and wasn’t going to answer.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby also spoke about the deference shown towards an MP that led to the block on an arrest of Greville Janner in 1991, saying: “I felt we had enough to arrest him but we didn’t because he was an MP. I think we should have done.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said that he had found vital clues in 1991 that backed up claims that Greville Janner, Labour MP, had molested a teenage boy at his marital home and at a hotel in Scotland…
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said : “He gave us an account of Janner’s house, how many rooms it had, and the lay-out of the furniture.

“When we visited, Janner had long since moved, but the house was exactly as the alleged victim said it was. I was in no doubt he had been in that house.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said: “We looked at the Scottish tour and believed him. We established Janner stayed in those hotels but could not prove the boy was with him.

“But we had the note, his testimony, and the fact a boy had been taken out of care to stay in London with an MP.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said: “It meant we had enough in my eyes.”

He was working on the investigation into Frank Beck, boss of a children’s home, and Greville Janner, Labour MP, with DS Mick Creedon, who went on to become chief constable of Derbyshire Police for 10 years until 2017…
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said: “Mick and I believed an arrestable offence had been committed and that once we arrested him [Greville Janner, then Labour MP] we could search his house and see if there was any material that helped corroborate what the alleged victim said.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said: “Someone higher-up told us that we could’t just arrest an MP, and it went no further.

“We were told that by someone senior, who I can’t name, but the order had to have come from the very top.

“I’m sure my bosses’ hands were tied.”
DCI Kelvyn Ashby said: “I was extremely frustrated. We might have found more in his house, or maybe more victims would have come forward.

“Janner should have been arrested.

“He was treated differently because he was an MP.”
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