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[1] Analysis Thread on the False Prophet Doco
Stuff claims the interview is not apart of a campaign to discredit @BillyTeKahika
Let’s examine the doco’s claims, compare them to Stuff’s ‘Code of Ethics' & you can decide if it is free from bias or not.
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#NZElection2020
Stuff claims the interview is not apart of a campaign to discredit @BillyTeKahika
Let’s examine the doco’s claims, compare them to Stuff’s ‘Code of Ethics' & you can decide if it is free from bias or not.
#nzpol
#NZElection2020
[2] The article presented with the doco states that it is an “opinion” piece.
Stuff’s code of ethics states: “we should not equate opinions with facts”
How many of the questions Paula was asking of Billy were based on facts compared to opinions?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/about-stuff/300106664/stuff-editorial-code-of-practice-and-ethics
![[2] The article presented with the doco states that it is an “opinion” piece.Stuff’s code of ethics states: “we should not equate opinions with facts”How many of the questions Paula was asking of Billy were based on facts compared to opinions? https://www.stuff.co.nz/about-stuff/300106664/stuff-editorial-code-of-practice-and-ethics](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPQiD_XYAgRXP2.png "[2] The article presented with the doco states that it is an “opinion” piece.Stuff’s code of ethics states: “we should not equate opinions with facts”How many of the questions Paula was asking of Billy were based on facts compared to opinions? https://www.stuff.co.nz/about-stuff/300106664/stuff-editorial-code-of-practice-and-ethics")
![[2] The article presented with the doco states that it is an “opinion” piece.Stuff’s code of ethics states: “we should not equate opinions with facts”How many of the questions Paula was asking of Billy were based on facts compared to opinions? https://www.stuff.co.nz/about-stuff/300106664/stuff-editorial-code-of-practice-and-ethics](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPQwpvXgAAUYJR.png "[2] The article presented with the doco states that it is an “opinion” piece.Stuff’s code of ethics states: “we should not equate opinions with facts”How many of the questions Paula was asking of Billy were based on facts compared to opinions? https://www.stuff.co.nz/about-stuff/300106664/stuff-editorial-code-of-practice-and-ethics")
Stuff’s code of ethics states: “we should not equate opinions with facts”
How many of the questions Paula was asking of Billy were based on facts compared to opinions?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/about-stuff/300106664/stuff-editorial-code-of-practice-and-ethics
[3] The article describes the investigation as an:
“account of what he says about himself and show how it is completely at odds with what others say about him”
Paula claims “it’s only fair that we put some of the facts to you”
Billy corrects her by saying “questions, not facts”
![[3] The article describes the investigation as an:“account of what he says about himself and show how it is completely at odds with what others say about him”Paula claims “it’s only fair that we put some of the facts to you”Billy corrects her by saying “questions, not facts”](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPQzMlWoAE9JGb.png "[3] The article describes the investigation as an:“account of what he says about himself and show how it is completely at odds with what others say about him”Paula claims “it’s only fair that we put some of the facts to you”Billy corrects her by saying “questions, not facts”")
“account of what he says about himself and show how it is completely at odds with what others say about him”
Paula claims “it’s only fair that we put some of the facts to you”
Billy corrects her by saying “questions, not facts”
[4] Is a clear line drawn between the difference of fact vs opinion in the doco?
The article goes on to say:
“it might follow that everything else he says should be questioned too.”
Based on other people’s opinions, people should then question everything else Billy has said?
![[4] Is a clear line drawn between the difference of fact vs opinion in the doco?The article goes on to say:“it might follow that everything else he says should be questioned too.”Based on other people’s opinions, people should then question everything else Billy has said?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPRENEXsAAIcH0.png "[4] Is a clear line drawn between the difference of fact vs opinion in the doco?The article goes on to say:“it might follow that everything else he says should be questioned too.”Based on other people’s opinions, people should then question everything else Billy has said?")
The article goes on to say:
“it might follow that everything else he says should be questioned too.”
Based on other people’s opinions, people should then question everything else Billy has said?
[5] Also in Stuff’s code of ethics: “Journalists should strive to represent all significant sides to a story, to serve our audience with a balanced picture.”
Out of the people interviewed:
How many interviewees in the documentary supported what Billy has claimed?
![[5] Also in Stuff’s code of ethics: “Journalists should strive to represent all significant sides to a story, to serve our audience with a balanced picture.”Out of the people interviewed:How many interviewees in the documentary supported what Billy has claimed?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPROtIXkAAtQQQ.png "[5] Also in Stuff’s code of ethics: “Journalists should strive to represent all significant sides to a story, to serve our audience with a balanced picture.”Out of the people interviewed:How many interviewees in the documentary supported what Billy has claimed?")
Out of the people interviewed:
How many interviewees in the documentary supported what Billy has claimed?
[6] Would a Socialist give a non biased perspective on Billy who is very critical of Socialism & Communism?
Would the opponent of a fight, likely provide a non biased recollection of the event?
Would most people be able to give non biased opinion on someone who fired them?
![[6] Would a Socialist give a non biased perspective on Billy who is very critical of Socialism & Communism?Would the opponent of a fight, likely provide a non biased recollection of the event?Would most people be able to give non biased opinion on someone who fired them?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPRdulWoAANwpN.png "[6] Would a Socialist give a non biased perspective on Billy who is very critical of Socialism & Communism?Would the opponent of a fight, likely provide a non biased recollection of the event?Would most people be able to give non biased opinion on someone who fired them?")
![[6] Would a Socialist give a non biased perspective on Billy who is very critical of Socialism & Communism?Would the opponent of a fight, likely provide a non biased recollection of the event?Would most people be able to give non biased opinion on someone who fired them?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPg4rjVkAAh1EA.jpg "[6] Would a Socialist give a non biased perspective on Billy who is very critical of Socialism & Communism?Would the opponent of a fight, likely provide a non biased recollection of the event?Would most people be able to give non biased opinion on someone who fired them?")
Would the opponent of a fight, likely provide a non biased recollection of the event?
Would most people be able to give non biased opinion on someone who fired them?
[7] In the documentary, Paula asks one of Billy’s accusers “what did you get?” paid.
“I have nothing so far”
The very next sentence she says “other than the $400 a week”
The same accuser criticizes Billy’s behaviour towards woman.
“I have nothing so far”
The very next sentence she says “other than the $400 a week”
The same accuser criticizes Billy’s behaviour towards woman.
[8] If Billy had such a track record of being a bully towards woman as claimed in the doco..
Why was he a white ribbon ambassador from 2012-2020?
In Stuff’s own reporting they say “White Ribbon advocates for an end to violence by men against women.” https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300092280/billy-tk-junior-terminated-as-white-ribbon-ambassador-after-complaints
Why was he a white ribbon ambassador from 2012-2020?
In Stuff’s own reporting they say “White Ribbon advocates for an end to violence by men against women.” https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300092280/billy-tk-junior-terminated-as-white-ribbon-ambassador-after-complaints
[9] Billy was removed as an ambassador over his comments about C19, not from a history of bullying woman.
Are any of the opinions of the accusers supported by convictions in a court of law?
Why bring up these accusations until after he announced starting a political party?
![[9] Billy was removed as an ambassador over his comments about C19, not from a history of bullying woman. Are any of the opinions of the accusers supported by convictions in a court of law?Why bring up these accusations until after he announced starting a political party?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPSCmtXcAccknM.png "[9] Billy was removed as an ambassador over his comments about C19, not from a history of bullying woman. Are any of the opinions of the accusers supported by convictions in a court of law?Why bring up these accusations until after he announced starting a political party?")
Are any of the opinions of the accusers supported by convictions in a court of law?
Why bring up these accusations until after he announced starting a political party?
[10] Stuff wrote a follow up article “A Darker Truth” to give more detail on Billy’s ‘anti-semitism’
Billy has a party candidate who is Jewish, has Jewish friends & often works out of a Jewish café.
Are these accusations based on truth or opinions of the people interviewed?
![[10] Stuff wrote a follow up article “A Darker Truth” to give more detail on Billy’s ‘anti-semitism’Billy has a party candidate who is Jewish, has Jewish friends & often works out of a Jewish café.Are these accusations based on truth or opinions of the people interviewed?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPSS11XcAAf6kc.png "[10] Stuff wrote a follow up article “A Darker Truth” to give more detail on Billy’s ‘anti-semitism’Billy has a party candidate who is Jewish, has Jewish friends & often works out of a Jewish café.Are these accusations based on truth or opinions of the people interviewed?")
Billy has a party candidate who is Jewish, has Jewish friends & often works out of a Jewish café.
Are these accusations based on truth or opinions of the people interviewed?
[11] Stuff's Code of Ethics also include ABC:
Assume nothing
Believe no one
Check everything
Did Stuff check the Collins dictionary definition for Tour of Duty?
“is the period of time a solider is involved in a particular duty”
..or assume the opinion of a solider was fact?
![[11] Stuff's Code of Ethics also include ABC:Assume nothingBelieve no oneCheck everythingDid Stuff check the Collins dictionary definition for Tour of Duty?“is the period of time a solider is involved in a particular duty”..or assume the opinion of a solider was fact?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPSf_wXkAMvnpZ.png "[11] Stuff's Code of Ethics also include ABC:Assume nothingBelieve no oneCheck everythingDid Stuff check the Collins dictionary definition for Tour of Duty?“is the period of time a solider is involved in a particular duty”..or assume the opinion of a solider was fact?")
Assume nothing
Believe no one
Check everything
Did Stuff check the Collins dictionary definition for Tour of Duty?
“is the period of time a solider is involved in a particular duty”
..or assume the opinion of a solider was fact?
[12] Did Stuff check with Billy if the copy of the CV they had was an authentic copy?
Or did stuff believe the source and assume it was correct?
Was evidence given in the doco to prove that ‘Billy’s CV’ had not been modified in anyway?
![[12] Did Stuff check with Billy if the copy of the CV they had was an authentic copy?Or did stuff believe the source and assume it was correct?Was evidence given in the doco to prove that ‘Billy’s CV’ had not been modified in anyway?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPSvqXX0AEk7W2.png "[12] Did Stuff check with Billy if the copy of the CV they had was an authentic copy?Or did stuff believe the source and assume it was correct?Was evidence given in the doco to prove that ‘Billy’s CV’ had not been modified in anyway?")
Or did stuff believe the source and assume it was correct?
Was evidence given in the doco to prove that ‘Billy’s CV’ had not been modified in anyway?
[13] In Stuffs Code of Ethics bias section, it says:
“Stuff is politically non-partisan”
Paula challenges Billy for making a typo in his alleged ‘C.V.’
In the uncut version of the interview, Billy raises Labour’s $120 Billion typo.
Paula dismisses wrongdoing of Labour's typo.
![[13] In Stuffs Code of Ethics bias section, it says:“Stuff is politically non-partisan”Paula challenges Billy for making a typo in his alleged ‘C.V.’In the uncut version of the interview, Billy raises Labour’s $120 Billion typo.Paula dismisses wrongdoing of Labour's typo.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPS8loWkAAfCSi.png "[13] In Stuffs Code of Ethics bias section, it says:“Stuff is politically non-partisan”Paula challenges Billy for making a typo in his alleged ‘C.V.’In the uncut version of the interview, Billy raises Labour’s $120 Billion typo.Paula dismisses wrongdoing of Labour's typo.")
“Stuff is politically non-partisan”
Paula challenges Billy for making a typo in his alleged ‘C.V.’
In the uncut version of the interview, Billy raises Labour’s $120 Billion typo.
Paula dismisses wrongdoing of Labour's typo.
[14] State funded NZ on Air helped fund the doco.
Advance NZ is out performing Labour on Facebook
According to Stuff reporters, Labour’s $50 million bailout to the media has no impact on their reporting. Though if you think that it does, they label you a conspiracy theorist.
![[14] State funded NZ on Air helped fund the doco.Advance NZ is out performing Labour on FacebookAccording to Stuff reporters, Labour’s $50 million bailout to the media has no impact on their reporting. Though if you think that it does, they label you a conspiracy theorist.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPTcFCX0AA3SZ1.png "[14] State funded NZ on Air helped fund the doco.Advance NZ is out performing Labour on FacebookAccording to Stuff reporters, Labour’s $50 million bailout to the media has no impact on their reporting. Though if you think that it does, they label you a conspiracy theorist.")
![[14] State funded NZ on Air helped fund the doco.Advance NZ is out performing Labour on FacebookAccording to Stuff reporters, Labour’s $50 million bailout to the media has no impact on their reporting. Though if you think that it does, they label you a conspiracy theorist.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPTcJBXkAEjtd4.png "[14] State funded NZ on Air helped fund the doco.Advance NZ is out performing Labour on FacebookAccording to Stuff reporters, Labour’s $50 million bailout to the media has no impact on their reporting. Though if you think that it does, they label you a conspiracy theorist.")
Advance NZ is out performing Labour on Facebook
According to Stuff reporters, Labour’s $50 million bailout to the media has no impact on their reporting. Though if you think that it does, they label you a conspiracy theorist.
[15] If “Stuff is politically non-partisan”, then why haven’t they done an equivalent doco on any other NZ political party leader?
Do Stuff have a record of writing non-biased articles about Advance NZ?
Why wait until the week of the election to release this information?
![[15] If “Stuff is politically non-partisan”, then why haven’t they done an equivalent doco on any other NZ political party leader?Do Stuff have a record of writing non-biased articles about Advance NZ?Why wait until the week of the election to release this information?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPTpMtWsAk7O-V.png "[15] If “Stuff is politically non-partisan”, then why haven’t they done an equivalent doco on any other NZ political party leader?Do Stuff have a record of writing non-biased articles about Advance NZ?Why wait until the week of the election to release this information?")
Do Stuff have a record of writing non-biased articles about Advance NZ?
Why wait until the week of the election to release this information?
[16] At the end of the doco, Paula claims that the information presented has been fact checked.
She didn’t mention which company they used, though Australian Associated Press have been used in the past to fact check Billy’s claims.
![[16] At the end of the doco, Paula claims that the information presented has been fact checked. She didn’t mention which company they used, though Australian Associated Press have been used in the past to fact check Billy’s claims.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPTx08XsAAXxAE.png "[16] At the end of the doco, Paula claims that the information presented has been fact checked. She didn’t mention which company they used, though Australian Associated Press have been used in the past to fact check Billy’s claims.")
She didn’t mention which company they used, though Australian Associated Press have been used in the past to fact check Billy’s claims.
[17] Here is an example of AAP’s ‘fact checking’
In their article they admit what National MP Simeon Brown said is factually correct..
though when they got the opinions of a couple of ‘experts’, they rated his statement as ‘misleading’. https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/10/the_worst_fact_check_ever.html
In their article they admit what National MP Simeon Brown said is factually correct..
though when they got the opinions of a couple of ‘experts’, they rated his statement as ‘misleading’. https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/10/the_worst_fact_check_ever.html
[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by?
Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network
Who has funded Poynter?
Bill Gates
Who has been very critical of Bill Gates?
Billy
Does Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?
![[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPUrUQXsAEP8wG.png "[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?")
![[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPUrUQXsAUKeK8.jpg "[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?")
![[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPUrZ1XsAE372C.png "[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?")
![[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPUrcbXkAM58E6.png "[18] Who is AAP FactCheck is accredited by? Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network Who has funded Poynter?Bill GatesWho has been very critical of Bill Gates?BillyDoes Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?")
Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network
Who has funded Poynter?
Bill Gates
Who has been very critical of Bill Gates?
Billy
Does Poynter write non biased articles about C19 vacines?
[19] How likely is it that AAP Fact Checkers are able to provide a non biased perspective of Billy?
Let alone be able to fact check people’s opinions?
Remember Stuff aims to “not equate opinions with facts”
![[19] How likely is it that AAP Fact Checkers are able to provide a non biased perspective of Billy?Let alone be able to fact check people’s opinions?Remember Stuff aims to “not equate opinions with facts”](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPU2I9XcAEziJs.png "[19] How likely is it that AAP Fact Checkers are able to provide a non biased perspective of Billy?Let alone be able to fact check people’s opinions?Remember Stuff aims to “not equate opinions with facts”")
Let alone be able to fact check people’s opinions?
Remember Stuff aims to “not equate opinions with facts”
[20] Is there a conflict of interest with fact checkers & the Labour party giving $50 million to the media?
Is there a bias from the people interviewed & a political bias from Stuff reporters?
Can you expect a non biased, balanced, fact-based documentary as the end result?
![[20] Is there a conflict of interest with fact checkers & the Labour party giving $50 million to the media?Is there a bias from the people interviewed & a political bias from Stuff reporters?Can you expect a non biased, balanced, fact-based documentary as the end result?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPeo_XXcAEcF96.png "[20] Is there a conflict of interest with fact checkers & the Labour party giving $50 million to the media?Is there a bias from the people interviewed & a political bias from Stuff reporters?Can you expect a non biased, balanced, fact-based documentary as the end result?")
Is there a bias from the people interviewed & a political bias from Stuff reporters?
Can you expect a non biased, balanced, fact-based documentary as the end result?
[21] If you were being interrogated over other peoples opinions which are being pushed as fact,
claiming your a bully, liar, con man etc..
would you not be offended?
Especially when your family & faith are bought into question?
Paula chooses to stand by the interview.
![[21] If you were being interrogated over other peoples opinions which are being pushed as fact, claiming your a bully, liar, con man etc.. would you not be offended?Especially when your family & faith are bought into question?Paula chooses to stand by the interview.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPevvVWsAAqHxX.jpg "[21] If you were being interrogated over other peoples opinions which are being pushed as fact, claiming your a bully, liar, con man etc.. would you not be offended?Especially when your family & faith are bought into question?Paula chooses to stand by the interview.")
claiming your a bully, liar, con man etc..
would you not be offended?
Especially when your family & faith are bought into question?
Paula chooses to stand by the interview.
[22] Decide for yourself what to make of the above.
Has Stuff lived up to it’s own 'Code of Ethics' with the documentary and subsequent articles?
Having read the analysis in this thread, do you think the doco is..
Has Stuff lived up to it’s own 'Code of Ethics' with the documentary and subsequent articles?
Having read the analysis in this thread, do you think the doco is..
[23] If you want some more information about what an Advance NZ rally is like I have attached a thread below about their latest rally in Auckland. https://twitter.com/QuriousKiwi/status/1314792426704433152
