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I finished reading that Snapewife article, and here are my thoughts on it: a thread.
This one. Boy, do we need to talk about this.
First of all, this article is preaching the act of separating fiction from reality, which I 100% agree with. So why can’t the author actually do as she says? This is a fictional character [Snape] we’re talking about. So to...
![This one. Boy, do we need to talk about this. First of all, this article is preaching the act of separating fiction from reality, which I 100% agree with. So why can’t the author actually do as she says? This is a fictional character [Snape] we’re talking about. So to...](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej9fvUzVgAA45Ow.jpg "This one. Boy, do we need to talk about this. First of all, this article is preaching the act of separating fiction from reality, which I 100% agree with. So why can’t the author actually do as she says? This is a fictional character [Snape] we’re talking about. So to...")
First of all, this article is preaching the act of separating fiction from reality, which I 100% agree with. So why can’t the author actually do as she says? This is a fictional character [Snape] we’re talking about. So to...
... compare a FICTIONAL character, in a make-believe universe, to real life school shooters? Appalling. Disgusting. People were actually affected by those real-life shooters, and fictional characters can’t hurt you. (Yes, they can emotionally IMPACT you, but not *harm* you.)
Also the fact that the author thinks that fiction *is actually* affecting how these people behave towards others, or, comparing them to the atrocity of school shooters is very
That comparison was completely and utterly insensitive and offensive.
That comparison was completely and utterly insensitive and offensive.
This excerpt was saying that fans of athletes are, essentially, less-inclined to sexualise the person of whom they are a fan of.
I mean, considering athlete fans are predominantly male-dominated or “associated” with masculinity, wouldn’t this be a sexist comparison?
I mean, considering athlete fans are predominantly male-dominated or “associated” with masculinity, wouldn’t this be a sexist comparison?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but honestly, other people’s sex-lives are none of your business. If this is a “kink” or “role-playing” thing (as the author mentions later on, describing it as a “...role-play gone awry.”) then maybe you should not let it affect you?
As long as both parties are okay with whatever is happening, I don’t think it’s the author’s place to comment.
Here the author talks about the influencing factors to Snape’s demeanour and the way he treats people/the explanations for his actions.
In no way is Snape my favourite character in Harry Potter, probably down the bottom if I’m being honest, but the end to this paragraph...
In no way is Snape my favourite character in Harry Potter, probably down the bottom if I’m being honest, but the end to this paragraph...
...is something I want to talk about.
“Still the overall /goodness/ of his character is up for debate — unless you’re a Snapewife.”
This sentence absolutely *wreaks* of internalised misogyny. The author is right, the goodness is up for open discussion and debate...
“Still the overall /goodness/ of his character is up for debate — unless you’re a Snapewife.”
This sentence absolutely *wreaks* of internalised misogyny. The author is right, the goodness is up for open discussion and debate...
... — but this debate should also include those who are part of the Snapewife fandom.
The author groups these Snapwives as middle-aged women, so the comment was obviously directed at women. To say that these women’s opinions on the characterisation of Snape throughout the...
The author groups these Snapwives as middle-aged women, so the comment was obviously directed at women. To say that these women’s opinions on the characterisation of Snape throughout the...
... the Harry Potter books and movies is rendered redundant and worthless due to what fandom they associate themselves with is completely misogynistic.
Women have been fighting for a place and voice in fandom for a *long* time. This article is not helping with this issue...
Women have been fighting for a place and voice in fandom for a *long* time. This article is not helping with this issue...
... but rather adding onto it. She’s adding onto the substantial volume of abuse, sexism and discrimination women face within online fandoms.
For an article that preaches the importance of equality of gender — in real life and in fandoms — it’s quite a sexist remark.
For an article that preaches the importance of equality of gender — in real life and in fandoms — it’s quite a sexist remark.
This excerpt here sort of contradicts the whole article, in my opinion.
It talks about how some Snapewives feel connected to this character because they can relate to the struggles, motivations, or backstory of Snape, then goes on to give an example of a Snapewife who feels...
It talks about how some Snapewives feel connected to this character because they can relate to the struggles, motivations, or backstory of Snape, then goes on to give an example of a Snapewife who feels...
... this way.
I have to ask: what was the point of including this, if the author was just going to completely ignore the fact that this is a perfectly plausible explanation for joining fandom?
How someone connects, relates, enjoys *or* how they find comfort in fictional...
I have to ask: what was the point of including this, if the author was just going to completely ignore the fact that this is a perfectly plausible explanation for joining fandom?
How someone connects, relates, enjoys *or* how they find comfort in fictional...
... characters is not for your criticism, unless it is directly harming someone in real life (but that’s sort of a given.)
This whole article is essentially mocking women for their love of villains or “bad boys”, and that’s why tis excerpt is particularly condescending.
So what if someone find Snape attractive? So what if someone find comfort in the character? So what if people feel the need to...
So what if someone find Snape attractive? So what if someone find comfort in the character? So what if people feel the need to...
... defend a character, that they can relate to on a personal level, that was abused? Or manipulated?
Of course I have to mention this bit where the author talks about Kylo Ren fans, being in the fandom that the author mentions.
Honestly, if some Kylo fans were Snapewives (or still are), that’s none of our business. So what if they are?
I would also like to point out that...
Honestly, if some Kylo fans were Snapewives (or still are), that’s none of our business. So what if they are?
I would also like to point out that...
... the comparison of Snapewives to Kylo fans/stans is not very accurate.
Snapewives’ whole fandom was based off the premise that they were *married* to Snape, and that they engages in sometimes sexual acts.
The Kylo (and Ben Solo) fandom is not necessarily based off of the...
Snapewives’ whole fandom was based off the premise that they were *married* to Snape, and that they engages in sometimes sexual acts.
The Kylo (and Ben Solo) fandom is not necessarily based off of the...
... sexualisation of the character (although some people do sexualise Kylo, but that’s not what the fandom is based on.)
Some people aren’t sexually attracted to the character, like people who may be asexual, lesbian, or just not generally attracted to Kylo/Ben.
For me, I...
Some people aren’t sexually attracted to the character, like people who may be asexual, lesbian, or just not generally attracted to Kylo/Ben.
For me, I...
... don’t sexualise the character because I’m not even eighteen (18), so I don’t really engage in NSFW things.
But the fact that our fandom is known for the sexualisation of the character, and that people think we don’t see anything else in the character other than the...
But the fact that our fandom is known for the sexualisation of the character, and that people think we don’t see anything else in the character other than the...
... attractiveness of Kylo/Ben is overlooking everything else.
Some people are fans of the character because of the fact that they relate to the character’s backstory of lifelong abuse and manipulation that influenced the actions.
It’s not mental gymnastics to see that a...
Some people are fans of the character because of the fact that they relate to the character’s backstory of lifelong abuse and manipulation that influenced the actions.
It’s not mental gymnastics to see that a...
... character that has clearly suffered (and still suffers) mental illness through the canon, if it’s difficult for you to see, and if it takes “mental gymnastics”, then maybe you should rewatch the movies and look at more of the media that showcases Ben Solo/Kylo Ren’s pain.
It’s frankly not your place to say that women can’t enjoy a character, piece of media, or fandom.
I forgot to finish a sentence, but you get the point akfbakdbskbdks-
