A fun thought experiment I had:
what would a revolution actually look like?
I argue with my mom constantly, and this centered around climate change. Both the governments nor the corporation have any real plans or incentive to change the course of the world, hence, revolution

But ofc, you can't just take down a corporation by killing the CEO (I wish) or pushing it out in some other way. "Seize the means of production" has always been literal. In this case, it wouldn't be food or power, but the mechanisms that force emissions out of the us today

this has numerous effects that, frankly, I haven't researched enough yet. Oil prices, gas, maybe even some supply chains grinding to a halt. But still, even to have a group of (dedicated) people to physically do such a thing, how do you sustain them against the state?

I think you'd have to start with cities. Rather, city. States and obv the whole country are too large to enact any sort of power over, so I think a city is both the maximum, and the minimum necessary to actually get somewhere with substance

The riot would have to be pretty intense. And that's how it'd start, a riot. Minneapolis was fascinating to me because it showed that you don't have to literally beat the police, beat the state. You just have to make it politically infeasible for them to continue in that area.

After that, I have no idea. It'd probably be nothing like CHAZ, because that was under a pretty "governable" area and population. For it to be a city, you'd have to what, gradually push out police officers block by block and seize city hall? Run out the mayor/council members?

something something mandate of the masses. Things would have to get *so bad* that people would be freely exchanging things like food, housing, etc. I think there are enough resources and storefronts for most cities to last a few days by themselves, with organization (big if)

These are extremely tall walls to begin with, and would honestly shape up to be like nothing what I wrote, but that's not what interests me
what interests me is what happens when the "country" has enough decides to pull the plug. No food in. Cut off power from out of state.

Thinking about it, it's easy to imagine that the country could just "do this" and the revolution is over. People leave the city in droves, everyone gets pressured and demotivated, and the state rolls in again
But what if you thought a step ahead of them?

These things, food chains, electrical power grids, these aren't just concepts. They're locations, buildings, workers. "Seize the means" doesn't just mean food, and it doesn't just mean the companies forcing out emissions (the ostensible beginning of this thought experiment.)

I know almost nothing about it, i haven't researched, but I think this is how war works. It's not really about who's dying and on what side. It's whether or not you can capture, control, and defend resources.
Doing this successfully would mean a lot of people thinking very fast

the amount of collaboration that'd be needed to sustain *just one city*...
I don't know. The more I talked about it, the less I could see it playing out. I mean, to be clear, I did tell her that cities would do this and be quashed, multiple times. Those losses would be...

demotivating, yes, but they would also be teaching moments. We do something, they use a play. We think of something against that, attempt it, they make a different play. This would probably have to happen at least a few times.
Revolutions start with far more losses than wins.

I just look at the current political situation, our (left's) position, and just... idk. Our best is to organize effective city wide strikes against a problem as obvious and clear cut as police brutality. There's mutual aid, training, that sort of thing. But they all function...

under the nose of the state, one that is very aware of what we're doing and send infiltrators on a regular basis. People are legally protesting and feds are already starting to bust down doors, arrest these people without charges. They're so much farther along than we are.

I have no closure for this thread :P only hope we've wised up on some level in the next coming year. "Harm reduction" aside, I really do think the unlikely case of Biden winning *and* pushing Trump out despite his inevitable attempted takeover would be bad for a leftist movement