Thanks to . @garethhinds, this morning conversation went

Daughter: why did the Achaeans attack Troy?

Me: To get Helen back

Son: That's a silly reason for a war

They followed with:

Son: I wish the gods were real

Daughter: they are if you believe in them

Son: that doesn't make sense

Daughter: they are real to you, just like life

[I slink into another room in existential crisis]

[I reenter room]

Son: I don't believe in heaven or hell.

Daughter: so what happens when you die

Son: you're just gone

Daughter: well, even if there was something else, we wouldn't be able to know about it without our brains

[Leaving room again]

[back to the Iliad]

Daughter: do the Greeks get Helen back?

Me: yes, she's at home in the Odyssey

Daughter: But the Iliad ends with the burial of Hektor. Where are the other books?

Me: Well, um, we don’t have them..

Daughter: you mean @garethhinds hasn't finished them yet?