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Why Saiouma is not toxic, a thread debunking literally every arguments of people saying it is
1. The « youâre alone and you will always be » is taken out of context. Kokichi just acted like a total assh*le and punched shuichiâs best friend, how do you think heâll react ? Of course heâs not gonna be nice to him, and he might have just said that without thinking
Plus after that, in the Japanese version, Shuichi calls Kokichi a friend, meaning he didnât think that he will be alone forever.
2. « Shuichi wanted to k*ll himself because of Kokichi ». This is the most stupid thing Iâve ever heard. Shuichi had s//cidal thoughts because of the secret of the outside world, not because of Kokichi. He would have felt the same if he found out about the secret himself, or-
-if anybody that isnât Kokichi showed him the outside world. Reminder that Kokichi had a good intentions when he showed the outside world to everyone and he didnât think Shuichi would react like that, he just wanted everyone to lose hope so they wonât continue the game anymore
3. « Kokichi donât care about Shuichiâs mental health and made fun of Kaedeâs death ». First of all, he didnât make fun of Kaedeâs death. He just said that Shuichi got rid of his hat because of her death, which is actually true. And no, Shuichi wasnât affected by that, since-
-he showed no reaction at what Kokichi said. Second, Kokichi literally wanted to bring Kaede back in the chapter 3 ritual because it would make Shuichi happy, even if bringing Rantaro was the smartest option. Plus, in the FTE and LHE (I know they arenât canon, but they do-
-reflect how the character would have acted in canon !) Kokichi is first shown to be REALLY careful when it comes to Shuichi being hurt since he refuses that he also try the knife game. And in the love hotel scene, we sees that Kokichi literally said « consent is the key » since-
-heâs the ONLY one in the whole cast that go out of the room when he sees that Shuichi wasnât comfortable with that.
4. « Shuichi didnât care about Kokichi ». I donât have the screenshots, but at one moment, Shuichi literally say « This academy is full of mystery, and Iâm worried about Kokichi ». Plus if he really donât care about him, he wouldnât have bandaged his finger in the last FTE.
And again, Shuichi called Kokichi a friend even after everything he did, which proves that he do care about him deep down.
5. « Saiouma is the same as Tsumionji ». So youâre comparing bullying to teasing ? The relationship between Kokichi and Shuichi is WAAAAY more healthy than the one between Hiyoko and Mikan, theyâre literally incomparable.
6. « Kokichi doesnât have a canon crush on Shuichi, the shippers only says that to make their ship more valid ». Sorry to break it to you, but his crush *is* canon. The Japanese version is the original version right ? Well Kokichi says heâs in love with Shuichi in the JP-
-version. Just because the English version have a lot of mistranslation doesnât mean that Kokichi doesnât have a canon crush.
If you have any other reason to prove why Saiouma is toxic, please give me it so I can debunk it too. Anyways thatâs it, those are the only arguments I can remember for now lmao.
I just remembered another one lmao
7. « Itâs one sided ». First of all, even if it was, whatâs the problem with that ? A one sided ship is only toxic if someone have a crush on someone that hate them/is with someone else, which isnât the case. Itâs like saying having a crush on-
7. « Itâs one sided ». First of all, even if it was, whatâs the problem with that ? A one sided ship is only toxic if someone have a crush on someone that hate them/is with someone else, which isnât the case. Itâs like saying having a crush on-
-someone is unhealthy and that youâll never have a good relationship with that person. Plus, in the love hotel scene, Shuichi wanted Kokichi to stay in the room. He wanted Kokichi to stay in the room when he literally was about to f*ck him. So yeah. Plus I heard that Shuichi-
-have dense romantic thoughts about Kokichi ? Iâm not sure tho, I only heard it somewhere so thatâs not 100% sure.
