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analyzing and responding to this from the stance of two dream stans (me and my friend) https://twitter.com/wilburs_salmon/status/1312333505381060609
1. no fandom is perfect. in 2019 the fandom on twitter was almost non-existent. it was extremly hard to find people who stanned dream and even when you did it was mainly people who watched him in passing. of course the fandom is going to gain toxic people as it gets bigger.
2. 1) 99% of these people are probably KIDS who are not even on twitter. 2) while you’re providing examples of dream stans being toxic, perhaps provide examples of techno’s stans being toxic bc there certainly was some. obviously dream stans are going to be the most “vocal” 1/
2/ as there are more of them. the “i like dream” and the “rematch!” comments should be considered hate. if i comemneted “i like techno more” you would not consider that hate. and while the person who said rematch implies they wanted dream to win, nowhere was there any diss 3/
2/ on techno. everybody on twitter stayed supportive (for the most part) however i saw countless techno stans say they would be Pissed if dream won. i’m not hating on techno stans but you are not keeping the same energy with them.
3. “how childish dreams stans are” obviously there are going to be childish stans this game is targeted towards kids. a lot of twitter stans do not comment on youtube videos but you know who does? kids! children! the people who most likely made these comments!
4. generalizing dream stans counter: 1
5. 1) tommy went against the rules and had schlatt added without dreams permission. obviously people were going to be like what the fuck. dream even got mad at sapnap (who tommy asked to have schlatt added) for adding him without permission. 1/
2/ 2) while stans did attack schlatt (which is messed up) he was also being an asshole while on the server. he was intterupting people, make fucked up jokes, and not listening when sapnap or callahan told him to stop doing something.
3/ 3) the claim of people taking ss out of context to make schlatt look like a bad person is so funny to me. you cannot sit here and be mad at dream stans for doing that (when this type of shit is a MAJOR part in schlatts character) but not get mad when other fandoms
4/ have been doing the EXACT same thing to dream for the past like 6 months. the amount of times over the past 6 months dream has been dragged, sent death threats, been almost doxxed for old tweets/old opinions is absolutely disgusting and it’s disgusting people seem to hate
5/ this behavior Until it is dream at the receiving end.
6. 1) people were still angry with schlatt being added to the server but the stans who were saying shit were immediately reprimanded by the good bunch of stans. this is dream stan generalization counter: 2
7. Majority of the threats were sent by people we were mad Pog2020 didn’t win and guess who majority of those people were! tommy and wilbur stans. a good amount of dt stans were on schlatt’s side bc they wanted george to win. 1/
2/ let’s also not forget the amount of hate quackity got sent. quackity got sent a MULTITUDE of hate/death threats/threats of being doxxed by once again: people rooting for tommy and wilbur. this is dream stan generalization counter: 3
8. these two statements are Completely contradictory. on one hand you’re stating stans are saying it’s too dangerous for him to show his face but on the other hand you’re stating stans are pressuring him. 1/
2/ in his position it Would be dangerous for him to show his face. he is growing at such a huge rate and the amount of people that hate him are as well. his looks are the last sense of security he has and once he shows what he looks like do you know how many people are going to
3/ use that against him? do you know how many people are going to try and look for him irl? do you know how many people are going to drag his looks simply bc they don’t like him?
9. i personally have not seen many stans pressuring him for a face reveal. while there most certainly are, it is a SMALL percentage of the fandom. majority of tweets asking for face reveals are always followed up with “/j” this is dream stan generalization counter: 4. 1/
2/ majority of people i see bring up the face reveal are antis using it against him. it is almost always one of the main drags people go for (i.e colins drag to dream last night)
10. i completely agree with majority of this point. the hate maia got was absolutely disgusting and nobody should be hated on for interacting with other creators. However, this is dream stan generalization counter: 5 1/
2/ majority of the stans who were hating on her were on instagram and tiktok (which is already know a lot of people who are on those platforms do not use twitter) Plus, any good stan who saw this hate Immediately shut it down and put the bad stan in their place. stop generalizing
11. the shippers are a problem in its own. it is something every fandom has to deal with and for the most part dttwt has them under control (on this platform anyways) anybody who is a shipper is usually reported bc that’s fucking weird! and also this next point may seem like 1/
2/ low blow (bc it is) But you cannot attack dream stans for shippers when wilbur stans literally ruined wilbur and schlatts friendship bc people were shipping them. fix your own community before coming for another. (this thread is ongoing i have to send these to continue)
11. 1) i completely agree this should’ve been handled privately however, why is it that colin is allowed to respond but dream isn’t? dream felt off with colins joke abt getting the account and in the original tweet there was No indication colin was joking 1/
2/ dream and george were giving these accounts out For Free and obviously if he thinks somebody who does not need it is going to be using it as a stunt to farm, he is going to get mad. he has the right to reply. and don’t just say it’s small creators bc if it was a big creator
3/ he would’ve 100% did the same thing. 2) i personally do not see dream as a clout chaser?? he has made a multitude of jokes abt being one but never have i seen him actually do actions in being one. colin however when you look at his acc, looks like a glorified stan
4/ he is constantly involved in dttwt and it’s honestly kind of weird considering he (clearly) does not get along w 2/3 dt members. however like i stated before this entire thing should’ve been private. (still ongoing)
13. dream allowing shipping does Not equate farming likes/subs???? MAJORITY of the fandom does not condone shipping at all. him stating he’s okay with it is in no way encouraging it. he simply does not care and why would he yell at his fandom to stop if he doesn’t care?
14. the comments he makes with his friends are in no way enabling shippers?? so you’re telling me he’s not allowed to joke with his friends? he can’t flirt with his friends? i joke and flirt with my friends all the time. is that me enabling shippers?? no. it’s me having fun.
15. like stated before, why would dream yell at his fandom to stop when he literally doesn’t care. the fanfics are something you can’t even find without looking for them. if you don’t want to see them, don’t look for them! and literally WHEN has dream ever said he was okay 1/
2/ with being called daddy 
the only person who i have ever seen say that was sapnap and guess what?? it’s bc they’re best friends!! and they’re JOKING.
the only person who i have ever seen say that was sapnap and guess what?? it’s bc they’re best friends!! and they’re JOKING.
16. this tweet, despite the “/j” is SO FUCKING WEIRD 
(you’ll never guess, still ongoing!! twitter is so fucked w the threads)
(you’ll never guess, still ongoing!! twitter is so fucked w the threads)
17. 1) his response was a joke and he stated was joking in the reply to his og reply. the tweet was “dream doesn’t deserve to be the face of mcyt” and dream replied “and you don’t deserve to have a stan acc but shit happens ” and then STATED IT WAS A JOKE. 1/
” and then STATED IT WAS A JOKE. 1/
2/ if somebody made that tweet abt a stan and the stan replied nobody would bat an eye but bc dreams a creator he can’t have feelings? he can’t reply. he even later went on to clarify even he doesn’t think he deserves it and he tries to befriend everyone in the community and
3/ that is why he seems to be everywhere. i don’t care what anybody says, creators are allowed to reply what they want. and it ISNT dreams fault the fans did that. dream never told anybody to send hate and he’s reprimanded his fandom for being toxic on multiple occasions.
4/ those fans should simply know better, a lot of fans stayed quiet on the matter and that was that. while it sucks the person got sent hate and it should not of happened, it is not dreams fault.
18. the same goes for colin, he’s allowed to tweet what he wants. he’s allowed to rt a joke abt a situation he was in, it’s fine. they’re both 20 and 21, they’re young adults who grew quite suddenly, let them live. (ongoing)
19. 1) technically nobody lied abt the vlog. there IS a vlog. they were vague with answering so they didn’t have to lie. dream explained the reason why the vlog didn’t happen. you clearly Did Not read his explanation. i’m not going to waste my time explaining when you can 1/
2/ easily go read his entire explanation as to why it didn’t happen. 2) barely anybody was actually mad. obviously there were people that were disappointed but nobody was genuinely mad and if they were yikes! nobody i know actually has trust issues with dream LMAO
these are literally all jokes. dream and dttwt are constantly bullying each other obviously we’re going to say this man gave us trust issues but like nobody actually means it
20. the entirety of dttwt has made a pact to NOT bring this up to wilbur. anybody who does is going to be immediately reprimanded bc we do not take bullying lightly.
21. dreams actual stans do no cancel him. in case you hadn’t noticed there is an ENTIRE group dedicated to berrating dream and his stans which is fucking weird. his stans try to call him out and tell him when he fucks up and guess what! he respects it! he has gotten so much 1/
2/ better in his responses to being called out and you can see he is 100% growing as a person. this is dream stan generalization counter: 6
22. you’re saying only believe the creator but you’re contradicting yourself by saying we don’t know what dream has lied abt. in no way do i think colin is lying abt this, but by your logic it sounds like you would not believe dream if he stated the same thing.
this is the end of the thread. they deleted the thread halfway through me doing this however this is the internet and i will not be deleting this <3 if you made it to the end of this thread make sure to like and subscribe 
