A few weeks ago someone said that because the alphabet of Te Reo Māori didn’t use the letter “f” then it didn’t have “an f sound”
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Unfortunately, some people seem be under the misunderstanding that a particular letter is always & inherently fixed to a particular sound...
Unfortunately, some people seem be under the misunderstanding that a particular letter is always & inherently fixed to a particular sound...
First, what is “an f sound”? Well, for various reasons, I presume they meant a “voiceless labiodental fricative”
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https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="😜" title="Winking face with tongue" aria-label="Emoji: Winking face with tongue"> The first (obvious) problem is that...
Even their beloved English language uses other letters to represent that “f sound”. I mean, we’ve seen these examples so much
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“Gh” doing the “f sound” in - Laugh, rough
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“Ph” doing the “f sound” in - Phone, sapphire
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“Lf” doing the “f sound” in - Half
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“Gh” doing the “f sound” in - Laugh, rough
“Ph” doing the “f sound” in - Phone, sapphire
“Lf” doing the “f sound” in - Half
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And as ever English isn’t consistent.
The letter “f” in the word “of”, is a definite “v sound” (also known as voiced labiodental fricative
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It’s just reallyyyy Anglo-centric & provincial to think that the “f sound” is innately fixed to the letter “f” ‘cause...
The letter “f” in the word “of”, is a definite “v sound” (also known as voiced labiodental fricative
It’s just reallyyyy Anglo-centric & provincial to think that the “f sound” is innately fixed to the letter “f” ‘cause...
You’re just basing your opinion on how one language, i.e. English,(sometimes!) does it. It turns out that the “f sound” is shown by:
φ in Greek (as in φύοη)
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פ ף in Hebrew
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Ф in Chechen (as in фақс)
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Ֆ in Armenian
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ف in Arabic
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v in Malay (as in vandalisme)
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φ in Greek (as in φύοη)
פ ף in Hebrew
Ф in Chechen (as in фақс)
Ֆ in Armenian
ف in Arabic
v in Malay (as in vandalisme)
And of course, there are many other ways to represent the “f sound” in writing, especially when you look at different writing systems
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There’s a lot more to say about the letter “wh” in Māori & the sound(s) attached to it (it’s not always a voiceless labiodental-dental fricative for one thing
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Happy Saturday
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Happy Saturday
(Apols for any possible mistakes in the non-Latin character examples)
That person also had an issue with how the PM of Aotearoa pronounces certain words, in case you missed it, I already have a thread about that
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