Was Ali born in the Ka’ba
A thread debunking this claim
A thread debunking this claim
It is know that the rafidah have fabricated tons of stories and tales to push their narrative - Ali (May Allah be pleased with him) being born in the Kabaa is one of them
Yazeed bin Qa`nab is an eyewitness who doesn’t seem to be in mentioned in the Shi’i books of Rijaal
Sa`eed bin Jubayr was a Tabi’i born in the year 45AH and died 96AH, so it is impossible that Sa`eed bin Jubayr heard this directly from Yazeed bin Qa`nab.
Sa`eed bin Jubayr was a Tabi’i born in the year 45AH and died 96AH, so it is impossible that Sa`eed bin Jubayr heard this directly from Yazeed bin Qa`nab.
al-Mufaddal bin `Umar – has been accused of ghuluw
Muhammad bin Sinaan – is from the ghulat
Musa bin `Imran al-Nakah’i – he is majhool
Ali bin Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Daqqaq – he is majhool according to al-Khoei.
Muhammad bin Sinaan – is from the ghulat
Musa bin `Imran al-Nakah’i – he is majhool
Ali bin Ahmad bin Muhammad al-Daqqaq – he is majhool according to al-Khoei.
It’s clear that this narration according to Shia standards is very weak
There are many other Shia narrations which can be proven to be weak
Shias may claim that this story is found in Sunni books, here I will debunk this claim using a few examples
There are many other Shia narrations which can be proven to be weak
Shias may claim that this story is found in Sunni books, here I will debunk this claim using a few examples
Abu Tahir Yahya bin al-Hasan al-alawi is anonymous.
Zaydah bint Qareebah is anonymous.
Umm al-A’arah bint Ubadah is
anonymous.
This report was narrated by a several Majhool(anonymous) narrators, hence it’s unreliable report.
Zaydah bint Qareebah is anonymous.
Umm al-A’arah bint Ubadah is
anonymous.
This report was narrated by a several Majhool(anonymous) narrators, hence it’s unreliable report.
Ibrahim bin Abi Yusuf is anonymous(majhool). Hence the chain is weak/unreliable.
Shaykh Abu Yahya Noorpuri declared the chain as Da’eef
Shaykh Abu Yahya Noorpuri declared the chain as Da’eef
Shias will often quote Al-Hakim to attempt to prove that this story is mutawattir across all sects
Let’s asses this
Let’s asses this
Imam Suyuti stated that: As for what is in Mustadrak Al Hakim that Ali was born in it, then it is daeef(weak/unreliable).
Shaykh Abdur Rahman Mohammad Sa’eed Dimashqia stated: I didn’t find in books hadeeth anything that proves Ali’s birth inside Ka’aba. And what Hakim said regarding Ali’s birth inside Ka’aba is weird.
Imam Suyuti stated: The reason behind Al-Hakim’s negligence is that, though he compiled the book(Mustadrak) but he died before revising it. This means, he wasn’t able to re-read and rectify the mistakes in it.
Therefore, the rulings and views of Al-Hakim are not credible in his book Mustadrak.
This was a brief thread refuting common arguments
إن شاء الله I plan to make a part 2 of this thread
إن شاء الله I plan to make a part 2 of this thread