honestly i think if ultimates netcode wasnt turbo garbage i think people would realize its flaws as a competitive fighting game way faster, but maybe thats just me.
the online is so bad that you cant even focus on the fact that "gameplay" consisting of pacman vs rob isnt that fun https://twitter.com/quikssb/status/1309984325602086915

obviously some people fucking love it but many of yall did not show that when tournaments were around and noone was touching the setups from the moment they lost in bracket

and yeah, my initial tweet applied to me too. Offline was so much better than online that it felt good, until about a year in when I realized midway through the pre dreamhack bootcamp that being better than shit wasn't good enough

ALSO if you guys really want good online ultimate that badly, then just get to work on setting up emulator parsec. It's literally right there.