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i think a lot of discussions abt relationships in fandom spaces would be much clearer if we had a word for âi think these 2 have an interesting but maybe unhealthy dynamic that could be used, platonically or romantically, to explore each of their flawsâ separate from shipping. js
like in my mind âshippingâ brings up a kind of domesticity and love that applying the term to relationships i think are more complicated feels at BEST oversimplistic and at WORST romanticizing abuse which i do NOT want to do. but unhealthy relationships often lead toâ
âfascinating and heart-wrenching stories! like two people who arent good for each other make Great character growth, and i think romantic and even some sexual scenes can show a lot abt how they view themselves and each other as long as its handled with tact. i fundamentallyâ
âdisagree w the âdark media is being silenced!â argument bc its super not just look at actually published books theres dark shit everywhere and it costs $0 to just cw for a story that does handle such things with tact before recommending it, that is not what im talking abt hereâ
âfor me its that the way âshippingâ is used as a catch-all for an INCREDIBLY huge variety of relationships that are just all in the romantic vein and viewed as a whole as if the person is approaching them all in the same way when sometimes they super arent!! some ppl are ig butâ
âfor me like i Loved chell and gladosâs dynamic when i first played portal, and i knew there was Something there but i didnt want it to be them snuggling on the couch and caring about each other, the complexity of their relationship is what made it GOOD!! for a direct comparisonâ
âi âshipâ jon and martin in the very traditional sense where i think theyre in love and should kiss. but i also Love elias and peterâs relationship, how broken and distant it is, how unfit they are for each other, and what makes it so good is that they seem to be in love butâ
âthey arent, or at least not in the same way. its the TRAGEDY!! and sometimes that tragedy is best expressed through romantic relationships! but i dont think thats the same as shipping? the outcome/emotions are different enough that i dont feel comfortable using the same word?â
â(as a side note from this tweet, i think dan olsonâs tuca and bertie video does a good job of explaining how and why some dynamics can be best explored thru intimacy, if ur interested in my thought process there https://youtu.be/M8z8P-l8NwQ ">https://youtu.be/M8z8P-l8N... )
but yea. i dont have any idea for what a word for this would be, but i think its an important distinction to make when discussing complicated relationships in fandom and such
might add more to this thread later if anything comes to mind, who knows!
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might add more to this thread later if anything comes to mind, who knows!
OH AND REAL QUICK: if i see anyone trying to use this argument to excuse drawing/writing inc-st, cp, or blatantly fetishistic non-con with no consequence im coming for your kneecaps. this is NOT for you. get off my page.
