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Kobe Bryant’s 15 year Prime’s case as the Greatest of All Time (Thread)
Candidates for Comparison:
Kobe Bryant (99-13)
LeBron James (06-20)
Tim Duncan (98-12)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (71-85)
Kobe Bryant (99-13)LeBron James (06-20)Tim Duncan (98-12)Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (71-85)
Stats (Kobe):
Regular Season:
27.4 PPG - 5.7 RPG - 5.1 APG - 1.6 SPG - 0.5 BPG - 45.5 FG% - 33.4 3P% - 84.0 FT%
Playoffs:
27.4 PPG - 5.4 RPG - 5.1 APG - 1.5 SPG - 0.7 BPG - 44.9 FG% - 33.5 3P% - 81.9 FT%
Regular Season:
27.4 PPG - 5.7 RPG - 5.1 APG - 1.6 SPG - 0.5 BPG - 45.5 FG% - 33.4 3P% - 84.0 FT%
Playoffs:
27.4 PPG - 5.4 RPG - 5.1 APG - 1.5 SPG - 0.7 BPG - 44.9 FG% - 33.5 3P% - 81.9 FT%
Stats (Kobe; Pace: 100)
Regular Season:
29.6 PPG - 6.2 RPG - 5.5 APG - 1.7 SPG - 0.5 BPG - 45.5 FG% - 33.4 3P% - 84.0 FT%
Playoffs:
30.3 PPG - 6.0 RPG - 5.6 APG - 1.7 SPG - 0.8 BPG - 44.9 FG% - 33.5 3P% - 81.9 FT%
Regular Season:
29.6 PPG - 6.2 RPG - 5.5 APG - 1.7 SPG - 0.5 BPG - 45.5 FG% - 33.4 3P% - 84.0 FT%
Playoffs:
30.3 PPG - 6.0 RPG - 5.6 APG - 1.7 SPG - 0.8 BPG - 44.9 FG% - 33.5 3P% - 81.9 FT%
Accomplishments (Kobe):
5x Champ (2x Finals MVP)
1x MVP
14x All Star (No ASG in 99)
15x All NBA (11x 1st Team)
12x All Defensive (9x 1st Team)
2x Scoring Leader
5x Champ (2x Finals MVP)1x MVP14x All Star (No ASG in 99)15x All NBA (11x 1st Team)12x All Defensive (9x 1st Team)2x Scoring Leader
Stats (LeBron):
Regular Season:
27.5 PPG - 7.6 RPG - 7.5 APG - 1.5 SPG - 0.8 BPG - 51.2 FG% - 34.6 3P% - 73.2 FT%
Playoffs:
28.8 PPG - 8.9 RPG - 7.1 APG - 1.7 SPG - 1.0 BPG - 49.3 FG% - 33.3 3P% - 74.2 FT%
Regular Season:
27.5 PPG - 7.6 RPG - 7.5 APG - 1.5 SPG - 0.8 BPG - 51.2 FG% - 34.6 3P% - 73.2 FT%
Playoffs:
28.8 PPG - 8.9 RPG - 7.1 APG - 1.7 SPG - 1.0 BPG - 49.3 FG% - 33.3 3P% - 74.2 FT%
Stats (LeBron; Pace: 100):
Regular Season:
29.6 PPG - 8.2 RPG - 8.1 APG - 1.6 SPG - 0.8 BPG - 51.2 FG% - 34.6 3P% - 73.2 FT%
Playoffs:
32.5 PPG - 10.0 RPG - 8.0 APG - 1.9 SPG - 1.1 BPG - 49.3 FG% - 33.3 3P% - 74.2 FT%
Regular Season:
29.6 PPG - 8.2 RPG - 8.1 APG - 1.6 SPG - 0.8 BPG - 51.2 FG% - 34.6 3P% - 73.2 FT%
Playoffs:
32.5 PPG - 10.0 RPG - 8.0 APG - 1.9 SPG - 1.1 BPG - 49.3 FG% - 33.3 3P% - 74.2 FT%
Accomplishments (LeBron):
3x Champ (3x Finals MVP)
4x MVP
15x All Star
15x All NBA (13x First Team)
6x All Defensive (5x 1st Team)
1x Scoring Leader
1x Assists Leader
3x Champ (3x Finals MVP)4x MVP15x All Star15x All NBA (13x First Team)6x All Defensive (5x 1st Team)1x Scoring Leader1x Assists Leader
Stats (Duncan):
Regular Season:
20.3 PPG - 11.3 RPG - 3.1 APG - 0.7 SPG - 2.2 BPG - 50.7 FG% - 17.7 3P% - 68.8 FT%
Playoffs:
22.3 PPG - 12.1 RPG - 3.4 APG - 0.7 SPG - 2.5 BPG - 50.1 FG% - 16.1 3P% - 67.9 FT%
Regular Season:
20.3 PPG - 11.3 RPG - 3.1 APG - 0.7 SPG - 2.2 BPG - 50.7 FG% - 17.7 3P% - 68.8 FT%
Playoffs:
22.3 PPG - 12.1 RPG - 3.4 APG - 0.7 SPG - 2.5 BPG - 50.1 FG% - 16.1 3P% - 67.9 FT%
Stats (Duncan; Pace: 100):
Regular Season:
22.6 PPG - 12.6 RPG - 3.5 APG - 0.8 SPG - 2.4 BPG - 50.7 FG% - 17.7 3P% - 68.8 FT%
Playoffs:
26.0 PPG - 14.1 RPG - 4.0 APG - 0.8 SPG - 2.9 BPG - 50.1 FG% - 16.1 3P% - 67.9 FT%
Regular Season:
22.6 PPG - 12.6 RPG - 3.5 APG - 0.8 SPG - 2.4 BPG - 50.7 FG% - 17.7 3P% - 68.8 FT%
Playoffs:
26.0 PPG - 14.1 RPG - 4.0 APG - 0.8 SPG - 2.9 BPG - 50.1 FG% - 16.1 3P% - 67.9 FT%
Accomplishments (Duncan):
4x Champ (3x Finals MVP)
2x MVP
14x All Star (No ASG in 99)
13x All NBA (9x 1st Team)
13x All Defensive (8x 1st Team)
4x Champ (3x Finals MVP)2x MVP14x All Star (No ASG in 99)13x All NBA (9x 1st Team)13x All Defensive (8x 1st Team)
Stats (Kareem):
Regular Season:
26.5 PPG - 12.4 RPG - 4.0 APG - 1.0 SPG - 3.0 BPG - 56.6 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.4 FT%
Playoffs:
26.9 PPG - 12.3 RPG - 3.8 APG - 1.2 SPG - 3.0 BPG - 53.8 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.9 FT%
Regular Season:
26.5 PPG - 12.4 RPG - 4.0 APG - 1.0 SPG - 3.0 BPG - 56.6 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.4 FT%
Playoffs:
26.9 PPG - 12.3 RPG - 3.8 APG - 1.2 SPG - 3.0 BPG - 53.8 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.9 FT%
Stats (Kareem; Pace: 100):
Regular Season:
25.0 PPG - 11.7 RPG - 3.8 APG - 0.9 SPG - 2.8 BPG - 56.6 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.4 FT%
Playoffs:
26.3 PPG - 12.0 RPG - 3.7 APG - 1.2 SPG - 2.9 BPG - 53.8 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.9 FT%
*Reg. Season Pace for Playoff Series where it isn’t tracked*
Regular Season:
25.0 PPG - 11.7 RPG - 3.8 APG - 0.9 SPG - 2.8 BPG - 56.6 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.4 FT%
Playoffs:
26.3 PPG - 12.0 RPG - 3.7 APG - 1.2 SPG - 2.9 BPG - 53.8 FG% - 0.0 3P% - 72.9 FT%
*Reg. Season Pace for Playoff Series where it isn’t tracked*
Accomplishments (Kareem):
4x Champ (2x Finals MVP)
6x MVP
14x All Star
13x All NBA (9x 1st Team)
10x All Defensive (5x 1st Team)
2x Scoring Leader
1x Rebounds Leader
4x Champ (2x Finals MVP)6x MVP14x All Star13x All NBA (9x 1st Team)10x All Defensive (5x 1st Team)2x Scoring Leader1x Rebounds Leader
Kobe’s Case:
Pros:
5 Championships
Elite 2-way player for many years
Great Stats
Greatest Playoff Competition
Total Accomplishments
Playoff Improvements
Toughest Era Ever
3 peat
Cons:
Only 1 MVP
2004
Pros:
5 ChampionshipsElite 2-way player for many yearsGreat StatsGreatest Playoff CompetitionTotal AccomplishmentsPlayoff ImprovementsToughest Era Ever3 peatCons:
Only 1 MVP2004
LeBron’s Case:
Pros:
Tremendous All Around Stats
Elite 2-way player at peak
Incredible Consistency
Large Playoff Improvements
Total Accomplishments
Playoff Competition
Cons:
2007 and 2011
Only 3 Championships In 9 Tries
Pros:
Tremendous All Around StatsElite 2-way player at peakIncredible ConsistencyLarge Playoff ImprovementsTotal AccomplishmentsPlayoff CompetitionCons:
2007 and 2011Only 3 Championships In 9 Tries
Duncan’s Case:
Pros:
Elite 2-way player for many years
4 Championships
Total Accomplishments
Great Stats
Large Playoff Improvements
Toughest Era Ever
High Level Playoff Competition
Cons:
Playoff record vs Kobe
Couldn’t ever repeat
Pros:
Elite 2-way player for many years4 ChampionshipsTotal AccomplishmentsGreat StatsLarge Playoff ImprovementsToughest Era EverHigh Level Playoff CompetitionCons:
Playoff record vs KobeCouldn’t ever repeat
Kareem’s Case
Pros:
6 MVPs
4 Championships
Elite 2-way player at peak
Great Stats
Total Accomplishments
Playoff Improvement
Cons:
Weakest Era Ever (Shot Clock)
Bad Playoff Competition
Overlooked Playoff Mistakes
Needed Elite PG to Win
Pros:
6 MVPs4 ChampionshipsElite 2-way player at peakGreat StatsTotal AccomplishmentsPlayoff ImprovementCons:
Weakest Era Ever (Shot Clock)Bad Playoff CompetitionOverlooked Playoff MistakesNeeded Elite PG to Win
Breakdown:
Total Accomplishments: Kareem
Stats: LeBron
Winning: Kobe
Offense: LeBron/Kobe
Defense: Duncan/Kobe
Overall Competition: Kobe
Total Accomplishments: Kareem
Stats: LeBron
Winning: Kobe
Offense: LeBron/Kobe
Defense: Duncan/Kobe
Overall Competition: Kobe
Overall:
All of these NBA Legends have had remarkable 15 year stretches, but who truly had the greatest 15 year peak, with all things considered?
If I had to rank:
1A. Kobe Bryant
1B. LeBron James
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
All of these NBA Legends have had remarkable 15 year stretches, but who truly had the greatest 15 year peak, with all things considered?
If I had to rank:
1A. Kobe Bryant
1B. LeBron James
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
