Now data on http://clinicaltrials.gov"> http://clinicaltrials.gov shows why, and it doesnât look good for #vitaminC. Is this the last
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Iâve been hopeful but more than a little skeptical about the
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Iâve followed this literature closely & have been waiting eagerly for the results of the RCTs.
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Iâve followed this literature closely & have been waiting eagerly for the results of the RCTs.
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Thatsâs why I was excited to see that VICTAS had posted results. https://bit.ly/3j3Iatl
The">https://bit.ly/3j3Iatl&q... VICTAS trial is the largest (& arguably best) of the vitamin C RCTs: a placebo-controlled, Double-blind RCT done at 43 sites across the US. The 1° endpoint was vasopressor free days.
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The">https://bit.ly/3j3Iatl&q... VICTAS trial is the largest (& arguably best) of the vitamin C RCTs: a placebo-controlled, Double-blind RCT done at 43 sites across the US. The 1° endpoint was vasopressor free days.
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The results are incomplete & we will need to wait for the actual publication to get the full picture.
But what we can see doesnât look good:
* similar mortality rate in both arms
* more vasopressor free days in the control group
* some adverse events in the vitamin C arm
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But what we can see doesnât look good:
* similar mortality rate in both arms
* more vasopressor free days in the control group
* some adverse events in the vitamin C arm
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Even with this limited data and some simple stats, we can see that there is no significant difference in all cause mortality:
- HAT 22.2% vs Placebo 24.1% (RR 0.92 95% CI 0.67 - 1.27; p = 0.67)
There also isnât a difference in vasopressor free days:
- HAT 25 vs Placebo 26
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- HAT 22.2% vs Placebo 24.1% (RR 0.92 95% CI 0.67 - 1.27; p = 0.67)
There also isnât a difference in vasopressor free days:
- HAT 25 vs Placebo 26
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When we think about these results in the context of the other published studies it
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- *not one* study has replicated the effect seen by Marik et al
See my updated Forrest Plot (full blog post soon): The more studies we do the smaller the overall effect.
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- *not one* study has replicated the effect seen by Marik et al
See my updated Forrest Plot (full blog post soon): The more studies we do the smaller the overall effect.
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