I just came across a whole thread saying why maya x phoenix/athena x simon/ apollo x phoenix/ etc isn’t problematic, and I wanna talk about it so here’s a thread:
Ok so first, Maya x Phoenix, this ship isn’t problematic just because of the age gap (which is pretty problematic on it’s own) other from the fact that he met her when she was SEVENTEEN here are other things:

- He refers to her as a KID several times (If dating someone you +
Think is a kid isn’t weird, idk what is.

- He met her when her sister died, he came and helped her and not only does that make him like a brother to her, but it also means he’s her protector, and dating her would be him taking advantage of her.
- Maya also thinks that Phoenix +
Is an old hag, and she calls him an old man several times, and once again, if that isn’t weird idk what is.

So basically Phoenix thinks Maya is a kid, and Maya thinks Phoenix is an old man. Doesn’t seem like a healthy ship does it?
And also here’s a note:
We don’t ship Narumitsu because “we have no other personality than being gay” (yes they literally wrote that), and we don’t also ship narumitsu merely because it’s M/M. We ship them because they both trust and care for each other sm and most of their +
Interactions have implied romantic feelings. There’s a whole article for that so I’d suggest you read it.
Next: Athena and Simon.

This ship, idk why do people even ship it. Not only was simon Athena’s mom’s partner (which makes him like a dad figure to Athena) but the ridiculous age gap and how he met her when she was a KID. And even in DD she was still EIGHTEEN+
Not only do I see people shipping them make nsfw art of them but I also see ship art of them from when Athena was still a KID. She met him during a trauma, and also when she was a kid and I just can’t see how people ship it, it’s just so obviously wrong.
Apollo and Phoenix might not be pedophilic but seriously. What is wrong with you. Phoenix is like a DAD to Apollo, and he’s also first met Apollo when he was a teen. Phoenix is Apollo’s sister’s step FATHER. He’s his boss AND in his father’s place. I won’t say that it’s illegal+
To ship them but seriously that is. Disgusting.
Concerning other toxic ships I’ve seen including Kristoph and Phoenix, Lana and Damon, etc. I won’t say that these are illegal either and in fact I don’t really care if you ship them IF you ship them as characters and not only ship them because it’s toxic that is. Fucked up.
And don’t say “just ignore the art that you don’t like and follow them for art that you actually like”. Does it really not make you feel weird to follow someone who ships problematic pairings?? It makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable so stop attacking them for unfollowing.
And also here’s a disclaimer: DONT I repeat DONT argue with these people, most of them are antis and will not hesitate to send you death threats or gore. Don’t attack them either, just block them and let them be. If they interact with you, try to end the conv as soon as POSSIBLE.
This also goes for people who ship these things, let people enjoy whatever they want. It’s their choices. Even if it’s problematic, I’m BEGGING you, don’t try to argue with them, it can be very bad for your mental health, just block them and avoid them as much as you can.
A tip for following foreign artists is to always check their profile before following and making sure that you’re comfortable with the content they post, and also make sure to translate tweets before liking them, and once again, making sure you’re comfortable with them.
I’ve also seen a thread for Japanese ship names but I can’t find it, I’d suggest saving it if you find it because it’s really useful.
Here it is, thanks to @ace_defectives for finding it! https://twitter.com/thechildofmagic/status/1307389361927925767
You can follow @Egyworth.
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