[THREAD] How Ilkay Gündogan is Important to Man City (and what he brings to the table that Aouar does not)
[1/?] Ilkay Gündogan is a player who has very bipolar views among the City fanbase. I’ll admit, I myself have very varied views on him. However, I’ve recently began to appreciate him more, and I hope to make others appreciate him too with this thread.
[2/?] Unlike other seasons, this season Gündogan played in a deeper role, often playing in a pivot with new signing Rodri. For this thread, I’ll be using stats from the 2-0 loss to Spurs and other games.
[3/?] As shown here, Gündogan player a deep role, being the 2nd most defensively-positioned midfielder for us. It could be argued his role was in a double-pivot alongside Rodri, with KDB as a 10.
[4/?] We’ve all seen stats that show we aren’t as good with Gündoğan as we are without him. However, here are some stats:
Ground Duels:
- Gundo - 4/6 complete (66.7%)
- Rodri - 0/9 complete (0%)
Aerial Duels:
- Gundo - 1/2 complete (50%)
- Rodri - 1/4 complete (25%)
Ground Duels:
- Gundo - 4/6 complete (66.7%)
- Rodri - 0/9 complete (0%)
Aerial Duels:
- Gundo - 1/2 complete (50%)
- Rodri - 1/4 complete (25%)
[5/?] Possession lost:
- Gundo - 10 times
- Rodri - 12 times
Fouls committed:
- Gundo - 0
- Rodri - 6 (1 yellow card)
One game may not be enough, but this was possibly the game where Gundo-hate peaked. He was being scapegoated so much, and yet he still wasn’t as bad as Rodri.
- Gundo - 10 times
- Rodri - 12 times
Fouls committed:
- Gundo - 0
- Rodri - 6 (1 yellow card)
One game may not be enough, but this was possibly the game where Gundo-hate peaked. He was being scapegoated so much, and yet he still wasn’t as bad as Rodri.
[6/?] A major false narrative among the City fanbase is that Gündogan can’t perform with Rodri at all.
This is NOT the case. This season, he’s had 3 stand-out games: the 3-0 win vs Liverpool and the 2 Real Madrid ties. In all 3 of these games, Gündogan started alongside Rodri.
This is NOT the case. This season, he’s had 3 stand-out games: the 3-0 win vs Liverpool and the 2 Real Madrid ties. In all 3 of these games, Gündogan started alongside Rodri.
[7/?] So, what exactly DOES Gündogan bring to the team? Well, it’s a lot more than good passing: he gives Pep options.
With Gündogan, Pep can play a 4-2-2-2 type shape, which allows for easier buildup (see the 4-0 win v Liverpool)
With Gündogan, Pep can play a 4-2-2-2 type shape, which allows for easier buildup (see the 4-0 win v Liverpool)
[8/?] With Gündogan, Pep can play a 4-2-3-1, allowing KDB to have a free role and one of the fullbacks to push up freely without being outnumbered defensively.
With Gündogan, Pep can play a normal 4-3-3, but have one of the CM’s (Gundo in this case) be defensive.
With Gündogan, Pep can play a normal 4-3-3, but have one of the CM’s (Gundo in this case) be defensive.
[9/?] With Gündogan, Pep can have a perfect player to come in for Rodri if he ever picks up an injury, just like he did for Fernandinho in 18/19.
It’s not just that. There is NO player in the world with Gundogan’s ability/versatility who would take up a squad/backup role. NONE.
It’s not just that. There is NO player in the world with Gundogan’s ability/versatility who would take up a squad/backup role. NONE.
[10/?] “We can replace Gündogan with Aouar” is a weak argument. Sure, Aouar is better, but he will not take a bench role AND he would overtake Foden and/or Bernardo in the process. Furthermore, by playing him as a DM, Aouar’s creativity would be hugely wasted.
[11/?] And yes, I know stats aren’t everything. And I also know that Aouar is younger. But, as a defensive minded-player, Gündogan is just... better.
[12/12] I’ll conclude this thread by saying this: I may not have been his biggest fan at times, but I can appreciate Gündogan for his determination and how good of a player he’s been for us at times.
And no, I’m not saying he’s better than Aouar before you attack me for that.
And no, I’m not saying he’s better than Aouar before you attack me for that.