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On C2C last night, Vallée was asked by Church: With all of his UFO research in past 6 decades, has he ever felt "threat" was part of the narrative when it comes to contact w/ET?
2 With Church's obvious disdain for DeLonge/TTSA & folks criticizing TTSA for hammering the possible threat angle, this seemed like Jimmy was hoping for JV to say, "Threat? Of course not!" But anybody who has read Vallée, knows that he's careful not to rule out anything.
3 "That's a big question. When you look at the databases...you find a number of close encounters. Thousands of them. And when you verify them and you look at the parameters, you find behavior - and I want to use my words very carefully - that we today would interpret as hostile.
4 "There are cases of people dying & you should remember from our presentations a couple of years ago at @CITDConference, I followed up on a number of those cases, especially in Brazil, where people were killed in very, very strange situations. And, I mean killed, not just, they
5 "didn't die by accident. There was an interaction with the object. There are also hundreds of cases where people are healed of ailments in ways that are directly related to being in contact and being close to a UFO. And by UFO, I don't mean a light. I mean an actual device that
6 "I believe is material and physical that was close to them, and interacting with them. There are also many cases where we can't tell. There was an impact on the witness. It may be both at the intellectual level, at the mental level and at the physical level. There are a number
7 "of people, including one that I'm going 2 go c here in France. The witness who had a mark on her skin. And this is not something the Navy would go after or something the Pentagon would necessarily b interested in. But it's become an important side aspect of the UFO experience.
8 "People would see an object & then the next day or whenever they take a shower, they would discover, maybe on their shoulder or on their chest or on their arm, they would discover a very distinctive mark. That mark would last maybe a week, maybe two weeks. It would go away &
9 "there would be no after effect. We have studied several of those. We've gathered a file of maybe 200 from around the world. Most of the witnesses - you cannot call them victims - are women. There are also men. In some of those cases, we brought them to a lab or hospital to be
10 "analyzed, to be looked at by a dermatologist. In some of those cases, they agreed to have samples taken from their skin, where the mark WAS. And the dermatologist could not make a determination of what that was. It was clear that there was something there. It was not painted,
11 "it was not a normal bruise, it was not any normal blood circulation effect and we're very puzzled by that. One of those women that we're going to see here in Paris in the next few days, was driving - this was some time after they had that mark - was driving with two girls,
12 "one of whom was her daughter, in broad daylight in the west of France, going to a family reunion. The car had an open roof. She saw an object that behaved in very, very, strange ways, optically. And they took pictures. We have the pictures. I'm not going after the 200,000
13 "case in the databases. I've been there, I've designed those. I've passed it on to other people that are pursuing that research with AI. Now I want 2 focus on those very specific, very rich cases, where u have a combination of very unusual information that science can look at.
14 "It's not just a report. We have the photographs, we have the pictures of the marks on the skin. The photograph (of the UFO) is very clear. I don't want to go into too many details bc it's a normal practice to keep some of the descriptions private so that if other people have
15 "the same experience, we can correlate it and we know it's not copy cat. The photograph is a very physical device. It's not a disc but it's clearly a physical device. Fairly large, which means fairly close. What doesn't make sense is...you have three witnesses in the car.
16 "Middle-aged woman but she has a responsible child. The two girls are late teenagers and what they describe is consistent. But that object seems to be coming towards them. They were driving down the road. There was nobody else on the road, which is strange. Now, other people
17 "have made those descriptions, like being in another place, all of a sudden. There were no sounds & that object seemed to both coming closer and receding. No, I don't know how u do that. Again, in engineering terms, it doesn't make any sense, which is something that has made
18 "many people say, 'Well, obviously, they didn't know what they were talking about.' Well, they knew what they were talking about & we have the picture. So those are the parameters that we have to deal with. There is an optical illusion attached to the object. Now, some people
19 "will say, 'Well, maybe the object was halfway into another dimension, emerging from that dimension.' But it's still a material, physical object when it gets HERE, which means that there are holes in the ground & burns & plants being destroyed & so on. That it's not physical
20 "all the time. Now we don't have objects like that in our physics (laughs) so that's where it's interesting. I'm a high-tech guy & I like to invest in companies that have breakthrough physics in medicine or other areas that can be applied. So this is very interesting. U can't
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