Having a close family member as a Trump voter who repeats his lies is painful. But so was my childhood with him. He does not listen to reason or appreciate nuances. He says all politicians are as bad as Trump so why not vote for him. There are many like him out there, I fear.

I tried this: "Matters of degree matter. Trump is like a quack who has killed every single patient he's operated on --a total of four people. But now you point to a surgeon who’s done 10,000 surgeries and four people died by accident and saying it’s the same thing. It’s not."