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Singing and coughing might create infectious SARS2 aerosols you say?
How could we EVER have known</sarcasm>
From 1996 Sepkowitz "How contagious is tuberculosis" (TB)
How could we EVER have known</sarcasm>
From 1996 Sepkowitz "How contagious is tuberculosis" (TB)
I like this article because it reminds me of today.
We really didn't understand transmission of TB.
Needed studies.
And here I'd say its too soon to have these studies on SARS2, but if we could get on to accepting its airborne like measles and TB and countless other viruses as I have posted elsewhere we could get these done.
And here I'd say its too soon to have these studies on SARS2, but if we could get on to accepting its airborne like measles and TB and countless other viruses as I have posted elsewhere we could get these done.
The idea that 2 weeks of therapy was sufficient was "circumstantial" at best, same with "droplet" theory.
This bit discusses ventilation. It sounds _EXACTLY_ like what we see today with SARS2.
The article cites to Riley, who tested TB transmission amongst guinea pigs. TB transmitted through the air.
The article cites to Riley, who tested TB transmission amongst guinea pigs. TB transmitted through the air.
Riley is the fellow who worked with Wells and Wells, from my earlier post. https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1299386110070620165
Rile found that the MAJORITY of spread caused by a MINORITY of infecteds.
Superspreading.
Superspreading.
Understanding TB was spread through the air was aided by all the outbreaks, which mostly happened indoors.
Say, on busses and poorly ventilated classrooms.
Oh, and bars.
Sound familiar?
Say, on busses and poorly ventilated classrooms.
Oh, and bars.
Sound familiar?
Entering a room after the index case LEFT could still lead to infection.
Hospital outbreak of TB to a number of people.
Well we've had SARS outbreaks in hospitals: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1297576491497250817
The son of one of the first Canadian SARS patients sat in a crowded ER for 16 hours. Sparked a big outbreak. https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1265870537756213248
In Canada, SARS spread through an ER: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1297576487290318848
... and here's the attack pattern with SARS at the Metropole Hotel, which started the international outbreak: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1297576483104460800
We've had MERS outbreaks in hotels: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1297576495678922753
We've seen SARS2 at family gatherings where the index patient had a cough: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1276527948145844232
SARS2 at choirs (same as Sepkowitz points out for TB): https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1276592038981574663
R value 2.5? Not for a superspreading event. https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1297576478910173184
SARS2 outbreaks at indoor call centres (Korea): https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1276593232097488903
and SARS2 on busses (Sepkowitz pointed out TB on busses as well): https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1276593447470870529
SARS2 outbreak at the restaurant we've all heard so much about:
Hospital again:
Sepkowitz concludes his article that we really don't understand superspreading.
But to my point, we ultimately accepted TB was airborne.
Let's get on with accepting this mode for SARS2 so we can implement remedies to slow the spread!
But to my point, we ultimately accepted TB was airborne.
Let's get on with accepting this mode for SARS2 so we can implement remedies to slow the spread!
Finally I've noted the similarity TB on a plane and SARS on a plane before. https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1301217115396022274
I'll end with mention of all kinds of people who spend their lives on aerosols who can provide input here ( @jljcolorado @kprather88 , @lingogurl , @CorsIAQ ), but we have to stop debating that it can transmit this way and get on remedying or slowing it (stay outdoor/more air).
This with school and winter (a season we are typically indoor) approaching fast.
p.s. airborne viruses/bacteria not new.
Measles, chickenpox, TB "accepted".
Laundry list of others are known. See Dr. Tang's list, which I posted: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1301131440860598273
Measles, chickenpox, TB "accepted".
Laundry list of others are known. See Dr. Tang's list, which I posted: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1301131440860598273
I noted that foot and mouth in animals is known to transmit this way, here: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1300921238945234945
And one final which I forgot to link to, but we did all of this, AGAIN, with respect to measles. Thread here: https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1297250473448222720
