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Pastor Segun Onayinka is a brilliant man
His church was the only one I was could attend while in Lagos, as he seemed to apply some rationality to his teaching
Sadly, it seems his brilliance has a data cap, and I will try to correct some incorrect statements he has made
#Thread https://twitter.com/onayinka_segun/status/1301045443477069824
His church was the only one I was could attend while in Lagos, as he seemed to apply some rationality to his teaching
Sadly, it seems his brilliance has a data cap, and I will try to correct some incorrect statements he has made
#Thread https://twitter.com/onayinka_segun/status/1301045443477069824
1. "Has anyone provided proof of God's inexistence"
This is a stupid question
You find proof of something's EXISTENCE, not it's INEXISTENCE
If he was familiar with the concept of Burden of Proof, he would know it is the people making a claim that are to prove it
This is a stupid question
You find proof of something's EXISTENCE, not it's INEXISTENCE
If he was familiar with the concept of Burden of Proof, he would know it is the people making a claim that are to prove it
Let's take it step by step
Who is making the claim?
It is the Christians
Christians make a claim. Atheists don't believe it
The Christians say God is real. The Atheists say I don't believe until you prove it
It is the people making the claim that are required to prove it
Who is making the claim?
It is the Christians
Christians make a claim. Atheists don't believe it
The Christians say God is real. The Atheists say I don't believe until you prove it
It is the people making the claim that are required to prove it
Think about it this way
If I said fairies live under rocks
I believe in my heart fairies live under rocks
It is written in my book that fairies live under rocks
The fairy spirit agrees with my spirit that fairies live under rocks and since you can't disprove it, it is true
If I said fairies live under rocks
I believe in my heart fairies live under rocks
It is written in my book that fairies live under rocks
The fairy spirit agrees with my spirit that fairies live under rocks and since you can't disprove it, it is true
Would you then proceed to look under every rock on earth to prove that they DON'T exist?
It is the person that says it exists that is required to prove it, not the other way around
Do you get?
Now, even though we do not need to disprove it, we can and we have
Sufficiently
It is the person that says it exists that is required to prove it, not the other way around
Do you get?
Now, even though we do not need to disprove it, we can and we have
Sufficiently
Let me quickly add that while modern science has successfully disproven the Creation Story, Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Tower of Babel, Exodus from Egypt and many other Bible fairy tales...
In 2000 years, the Christians have never once been able to provide evidence of God
In 2000 years, the Christians have never once been able to provide evidence of God
They have never once brought evidence that God is real
Not once
Test it today
Ask a Christian for proof of God
No sermon. No shalaye. Just proof
It is always Faith and 'my Bible says...'
The Christian version of vibes and Insha Allah
Not once
Test it today
Ask a Christian for proof of God
No sermon. No shalaye. Just proof
It is always Faith and 'my Bible says...'
The Christian version of vibes and Insha Allah
2. "Has Quantum Cosmology explained the emergence of the universe and why?"
NB:
Science doesn't explain why. Just how
How - Causality. Why - Purpose, Destiny
Science expains how it works. It is humans that choose to infer purpose/destiny
Q1 - Yes
Q2 - Irrelevant
Let's go
NB:
Science doesn't explain why. Just how
How - Causality. Why - Purpose, Destiny
Science expains how it works. It is humans that choose to infer purpose/destiny
Q1 - Yes
Q2 - Irrelevant
Let's go
Quantum cosmology has sufficiently explained the emergence of the universe with testable, replicatable evidence which has been globally verified and accepted
Even though pastor Segun will not tell you about the Four Pillars of the Big Bang, I will
Even though pastor Segun will not tell you about the Four Pillars of the Big Bang, I will
The Big Bang has been verified by thousands of scientists and researchers - some of who even started out to disprove it, but ended up proving it 
With evidence like the Expansion of the universe, Redshifting of galaxies, Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation and relative...
With evidence like the Expansion of the universe, Redshifting of galaxies, Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation and relative...
abundancies of Light Elements
The Big Bang offers a better explanation to our world than 'God did it'
From the nitrogen in our blood, carbon in our skin and calcium in our bones, we are literally from the inside of collapsing stars
We are literal evidence of the big bang
The Big Bang offers a better explanation to our world than 'God did it'
From the nitrogen in our blood, carbon in our skin and calcium in our bones, we are literally from the inside of collapsing stars
We are literal evidence of the big bang
Is the big bang real. Yes
Has it been tested, reviewed and verified. Yes
Does it have evidence EVERYBODY can see regardless of whether or not they CHOOSE to believe in it. Yes
But this is not the real question here
You don't refuse the Big Bang because it is not true,
Has it been tested, reviewed and verified. Yes
Does it have evidence EVERYBODY can see regardless of whether or not they CHOOSE to believe in it. Yes
But this is not the real question here
You don't refuse the Big Bang because it is not true,
...you only have a problem with it because it contradicts your religion
Let me explain
You use a computer. Made possible by science. You drive a car. Made possible by science. You fly in planes. Made possible by science.
The very phone you are using to type right now...
Let me explain
You use a computer. Made possible by science. You drive a car. Made possible by science. You fly in planes. Made possible by science.
The very phone you are using to type right now...
...was made possible by science
You don't have a problem with that science. You embrace it everyday
I put it to you sir, that the only reason you have a problem with Quantum Cosmology is because is disproves your religion
It disproves what you personally want to believe
You don't have a problem with that science. You embrace it everyday
I put it to you sir, that the only reason you have a problem with Quantum Cosmology is because is disproves your religion
It disproves what you personally want to believe
Not that it is not correct, or it is impossible, but it proves that your religion is a sham and a scam
If I am lying, throw away your phone and laptop and car, and let the world know you truly disagree with science, and not just the one that disproves your religion
If I am lying, throw away your phone and laptop and car, and let the world know you truly disagree with science, and not just the one that disproves your religion
3. "Have our sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life?
This is another ignorant assumption I am saddened someone so esteemed would make
This is another ignorant assumption I am saddened someone so esteemed would make
If the people who studied in America, visited England and pilgrimaged to Israel can say this, what hope is there for the uneducated parishioner?
The universe is not only NOT fine-tuned for life, it is staggeringly committed to chaos and we only manage to exist in spite of it
The universe is not only NOT fine-tuned for life, it is staggeringly committed to chaos and we only manage to exist in spite of it
Let me explain
99.9999999% of the universe is filled with a lethal radiation-filled vacuum
LIFE CAN NOT EXIST IN IT
If you take the remaining.... 99.9999999% of that one sef, is now filled with stars and black holes
LIFE CANNOT EXIST IN THAT EITHER
99.9999999% of the universe is filled with a lethal radiation-filled vacuum
LIFE CAN NOT EXIST IN IT
If you take the remaining.... 99.9999999% of that one sef, is now filled with stars and black holes
LIFE CANNOT EXIST IN THAT EITHER
The vast majority of the universe is NOT hospitable to life
I know this would break some hearts but I'm sorry, the universe wasn't made for you. Get over it
I know this would break some hearts but I'm sorry, the universe wasn't made for you. Get over it
Let me put it into perspective
If you took the universe. The whole observable universe and put it into Lagos
That is, if the whole universe was the size of Lagos, the amount of space hospitable to life, would be smaller than your fingernail
Think about that
If you took the universe. The whole observable universe and put it into Lagos
That is, if the whole universe was the size of Lagos, the amount of space hospitable to life, would be smaller than your fingernail
Think about that
Imagine if you drove into a state, and the amount of oxygen available for you to breathe was as small as a fingernail, would you conclude that that state was designed for life?
Yes or No?
Yes or No?
Now imagine that we finally have this tiny ball which is 0.000000000000001% of the universe that we can exist on
As humans, we NEED water to survive
The planet is made up of 70% water
Good right?
Wrong. Most of that water is salt water and if we drink it we will die
As humans, we NEED water to survive
The planet is made up of 70% water
Good right?
Wrong. Most of that water is salt water and if we drink it we will die
Dear pastor. Why would a god create a species that needs water to survive and then fill it with salt?
Most of our universe is a vacuum
Most of the remaining is stars and black holes
Most of our planet is salt water
All inhospitable to human life
Most of our universe is a vacuum
Most of the remaining is stars and black holes
Most of our planet is salt water
All inhospitable to human life
But pastor Segun believes the universe was specifically designed for us
Glory to God
I won't even go into the fact that before life evolved on earth there was serious gas emission, heat and commotion
I won't even go into the fact that life on earth has gone extinct 5 times
Glory to God
I won't even go into the fact that before life evolved on earth there was serious gas emission, heat and commotion
I won't even go into the fact that life on earth has gone extinct 5 times
I know it makes you feel good to think you are part of a divine plan
But never bellitle the people who do not share that belief
I just woke up. I'll complete this thread later
Don't forget to wear a mask to protect you from a virus your god is supposed to be able to cure
But never bellitle the people who do not share that belief
I just woke up. I'll complete this thread later
Don't forget to wear a mask to protect you from a virus your god is supposed to be able to cure
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