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Alright, I guess it& #39;s my turn. This is going to be my thread addressing the Greef situation. I& #39;ll be sharing what my thinking process has been and what it& #39;s based on. So if you& #39;re genuinely interested in my side of the story, here it is.
The reason I& #39;m doing so now? This:
The reason I& #39;m doing so now? This:
So on August 25 Greef blocked me and I posted about it (see the thread below). The reason I did so was because I was surprised, so I was hoping someone might be able to shed some light on the matter. https://twitter.com/LightRey/status/1298291365248458760?s=20">https://twitter.com/LightRey/...
Resolving that kind of confusion is something that& #39;s important to me because I& #39;ve had some nasty experiences involving people getting mad at me without me being able to see it coming or knowing why.
That doesn& #39;t mean I feel entitled to an answer, mind you. The people who asked Greef why I was blocked (I know of two) did so of their own accord. To both I made clear that I wasn& #39;t asking them to. They went to him because they were convinced it was a mistake, I wasn& #39;t so sure.
In the meantime, it turned out I was not nearly the only person blocked, and a lot of people weren& #39;t happy with him. The thought was that it was mainly because of paranoia about suspicious (new) accounts by the older ones.
This was seemingly confirmed by Greef soon after tweeting that he was going to block "Bad faith actors." I actually tried to defend Greef (and the other people who& #39;ve been at this longer than most of us) against that criticism in my thread: https://twitter.com/LightRey/status/1298539791403888642?s=20">https://twitter.com/LightRey/...
Nevertheless I was eventually unblocked. I didn& #39;t really know what that meant since the people who talked to him hadn& #39;t let me know (and presumably didn& #39;t know themselves yet). Plus, my struggle was with the confusion, which I still wasn& #39;t going to bother Greef with.
Then @k_dewolfwrites pointed me to another thread (see below) by someone who was blocked. https://twitter.com/redlikejungle/status/1298702357988093953?s=20">https://twitter.com/redlikeju...
In this thread it was brought up that Greef had actually been rather mean to someone recently. I was curious, so the following screenshot and corresponding thread (since Greef& #39;s tweets weren& #39;t visible to me as he was on private) were sent to me:
https://twitter.com/MOlsen08155759/status/1298677289593581569?s=20">https://twitter.com/MOlsen081...
https://twitter.com/MOlsen08155759/status/1298677289593581569?s=20">https://twitter.com/MOlsen081...
Here we see M being chastised for sharing her thoughts on US legal matters in a thread with Greef. That& #39;s it. That& #39;s the entire reason he& #39;s mad at her, still going at her after she apologizes (for sharing her thoughts!).
This, I felt, was concerning. Other than openly discussing it in the thread, however, I felt no reason to make some big deal out of it. I felt it was a kind of toxicity I wanted to stay away from, so for me it was simply enough to draw my conclusions and stay away from Greef.
Then the next morning (well, afternoon, I slept in) I find out I& #39;m blocked again. I was a little confused but w/e. At this point I& #39;d become far less concerned with the confusion since my opinion of the man had sunk so low.
Hours later, however, I am pointed to these:
Hours later, however, I am pointed to these:
Those set off a lot more alarm bells. Plus, it was clear to me (and apparently others since that& #39;s why they sent them to me) that they were at least in part about me and it seemed like he was angry largely about the conversations I& #39;d had in Red& #39;s thread, and was out for blood.
But more concerning than that was the fact that @tasteofsanity, who was one of the people who had gone to talk to him, turned out to have had the following interaction with him:
He literally says I "made a big fucking mistake" (ostensibly because I openly talked with people about having been blocked by him and sharing opinions on the things he& #39;s said and done to other people). Then he started going after some of those people:
Naturally we figured we were going to be targets at some point, and either way we all thought this was behavior we needed to call out. By this point we& #39;d heard multiple different stories about how he& #39;d treated people similarly to how he treated M. We concluded he was a bully.
The first to make a statement was @k_dewolfwrites, who made the following thread. Note how she explicitly asks people not to go after Greef. The point is to inform people so they can make their own decisions. https://twitter.com/k_dewolfwrites/status/1299009963508015107?s=20">https://twitter.com/k_dewolfw...
A little while after, @tasteofsanity made a thread of her own, sharing her conversation with Greef along with it, and calling him out as a bully. Again, note how she states people are free to choose to support him. It& #39;s not about going after him. https://twitter.com/tasteofsanity/status/1299060101471404032?s=20">https://twitter.com/tasteofsa...
There have been others who have said things about him, and perhaps some went further than we did & saw, so perhaps his main gripe is with those people. But in that case I don& #39;t understand why he& #39;s referring to "ring leaders," or who else those might be.
These screenshots were sent to me and my friends because those who read it assumed they were about us. I can only assume Greef intends to make some kind of case for himself to everyone willing to listen how he& #39;s the victim and we& #39;re the bad guys (unless we apologize to him).
I have no interest in this. We have called attention to the things he& #39;s said and done to us and others, shown screenshots and links to threads to inform people, and encouraged them to make up their own mind. Here, I do the same. It is not for me to tell you what to think.
I believe Greef& #39;s behavior is toxic. I believe Greef& #39;s behavior is bullying. If what we& #39;ve shown you does not convince you, then please do side with him and stay away from me and my friends. I want to stay far away from that, and simply hope that others do the same.
