I've never met @pennjillette, but I know a couple of people who know him. One is that woman Meghan Vaughan-Strauss with whom I've argued here, and the other is Jeff McBride. There seem to be a few vague allusions to that connection in this article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/q-and-a-with-penn-jillette-crackpot-hippies-politics-and-why-the-best-tricks-are-no-secret/2020/08/27/ade04b24-e792-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

Jeff McBride is one of the world's top stage magicians, and he's told me about his friendship with Teller, but has never mentioned Penn. Penn apparently viewed the Vegas Vortex as a bunch of "crackpot hippies", but perhaps that's changed?

Elon seems to be subtly alluding to this thread where I mentioned @pennjillette. I can only wonder what is being whispered in the magicians' community right now, since I recently wrote to Jeff McBride and dropped @JeffBezos's name.

Writing to McBride probably sparked the interview with Penn.

There are a lot of Jeffs/Geoffs in this thread.

I'm not unknown in the magicians' community, as McBride's students often come to Vegas Vortex events and the LV Renfaire, and I made this cake for the Mystery School 20th anniversary.