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I am leaving FT - here's why:
IT
IS
POINTLESS
Arguing with Ronaldo fans all day when it is clear to anyone with at least 1 eye that Messi is the better footballer.
They say Cristiano is a better shooter, then when you show Messi has a superior conversion rate they say its...
IT
IS
POINTLESS
Arguing with Ronaldo fans all day when it is clear to anyone with at least 1 eye that Messi is the better footballer.
They say Cristiano is a better shooter, then when you show Messi has a superior conversion rate they say its...
because Ronaldo only shoots from distance. But the same people say his movement off the ball is 2nd to none. Why the hell does Messi end up in these 'easy' scoring scenarios and Ronaldo doesnt - when Ronaldo is apparently better at movement?
Messi has far superior goals....
Messi has far superior goals....
goals per game, goals per 90,assists,trophies, percentage of teams goals, winning goals per game... He wins almost every poll by 60-40, far more pros prefer him, more journalists, more normal people like us, even lots of CRs team mates prefer Messi....
They laugh when we talk about dribbles, as if they are pointless.
His dribbles have led to hundreds of goals and scoring opportunities that Cristiano could only dream of doing.
Cristiano has 5 ucls Messi has 4.
Cristiano literally won 2 on pens, which anyone with a single....
His dribbles have led to hundreds of goals and scoring opportunities that Cristiano could only dream of doing.
Cristiano has 5 ucls Messi has 4.
Cristiano literally won 2 on pens, which anyone with a single....
brain cell knows are won on 50/50 - pure luck.He also won 1 after having scored 2 clearly offside goals v Bayern. Messi was robbed in 09/10, was even robbed in 18 /19 by his own team mates after missing 4x 1 on 1s v Liverpool. We could easily be sat here talking about Messi..
with 6 UCLs and Cristiano with 2. It wouldnt have been unfair.
Messi in Copa 16 was possibly the best individual performance by a NT player since Maradona 86 yet his penalty miss (which only kept the shootout at a draw because Vidal already missed) is seen as a bottle job, yet..
Messi in Copa 16 was possibly the best individual performance by a NT player since Maradona 86 yet his penalty miss (which only kept the shootout at a draw because Vidal already missed) is seen as a bottle job, yet..
when Cristiano missed in UCL final v Chelsea it somehow isnt a bottled penalty because he scored in the game?
He was far less effective in ucl 07/08 than Leo in Copa 16...difference was team mates penalty abilities.
CR has scored 17% of his goals with pens.
Messi just 12 5%....
He was far less effective in ucl 07/08 than Leo in Copa 16...difference was team mates penalty abilities.
CR has scored 17% of his goals with pens.
Messi just 12 5%....
this shows they have helped Cristiano 50% more than they have helped Leo. A huge fact.
Messi has won far more individual awards.
More trophies.
More records.
More moments that you will show your kids in 20 years time.
Messi very rarely dives
CR very rarely doesnt dive...
Messi has won far more individual awards.
More trophies.
More records.
More moments that you will show your kids in 20 years time.
Messi very rarely dives
CR very rarely doesnt dive...
Messi very rarely complains
CR always complains
Messi very rarely makes excuses
CR makes excuses very often
Messi literally gives team mates goals
CR literally steals goal from his team mates and very often doesnt celebrate their goals
Im not just talking ability, im talking
CR always complains
Messi very rarely makes excuses
CR makes excuses very often
Messi literally gives team mates goals
CR literally steals goal from his team mates and very often doesnt celebrate their goals
Im not just talking ability, im talking
who is the better person.
This doesnt mean who is the 1 that promotes the amount of money he gives to charity... its the 1 that gives equal amounts yet talks far less about it.
CR is a pr machine. End of.
Now for an unpopular opinion... The ucl is no harder than winning...
This doesnt mean who is the 1 that promotes the amount of money he gives to charity... its the 1 that gives equal amounts yet talks far less about it.
CR is a pr machine. End of.
Now for an unpopular opinion... The ucl is no harder than winning...
a league title.
There are 13 games. The first 8 for any top team are easy. This means there are 5 tough games (sometimes QF have easy opponents too meaning 3 games). When Real/Barca/Bayern, etc. play each other it is 50/50. All it takes is 2 offside goals or a win on pens..
There are 13 games. The first 8 for any top team are easy. This means there are 5 tough games (sometimes QF have easy opponents too meaning 3 games). When Real/Barca/Bayern, etc. play each other it is 50/50. All it takes is 2 offside goals or a win on pens..
and the 50/50 spins in your favour.
In a league you do OF COURSE play more easy teams. But you also play at least 4 VERY tough games. On top of this you cant afford to lose anything above 4 games (10%). In ucl you can lose 3 group games, 1 of each leg in RO16, QF & SF and...
In a league you do OF COURSE play more easy teams. But you also play at least 4 VERY tough games. On top of this you cant afford to lose anything above 4 games (10%). In ucl you can lose 3 group games, 1 of each leg in RO16, QF & SF and...
still win. Meaning you can lose 46% of matches and still win the title.
I still want Messi to win it... why?
Purely to shut the fools up. For me he could win 0 ucls and still be the GOAT. Individually he is superior in peak and average seasons over anyone that ever played....
I still want Messi to win it... why?
Purely to shut the fools up. For me he could win 0 ucls and still be the GOAT. Individually he is superior in peak and average seasons over anyone that ever played....
His playmaking is the best of this generation. Ozil, De Bruyne, Xavi... all absolute legends. Why Messi is alarmingly good is he puts down better stats than these guys, DESPUTE THAT NOT BEING HIS MAIN ROLE.
These players are judged on these things, Messi does it as a sideshow...
These players are judged on these things, Messi does it as a sideshow...
to all the other things he does better than anyone else- Scoring, passing, dribbling.. He is the closest thing we will see to a complete player.
Luck has very rarely been on his side. 4x international finals 4x losses. 1 he missed a pen (as did most team mates) but he was...
Luck has very rarely been on his side. 4x international finals 4x losses. 1 he missed a pen (as did most team mates) but he was...
great in the others. CR fans show a cleverly angled pic of his miss in WC final, again half a brain shows it was a fairly tight angle and Boateng was next to him as he shot.
He set up Higuain for easy sitters more than once in these finals too, along with Palacios horrific miss..
He set up Higuain for easy sitters more than once in these finals too, along with Palacios horrific miss..
in Copa 15 he was the ONLY ARG player to score his pen in the final.
CR on the other hand had an overall average Euro 16 and missed the final and played AWFUL in UNL final and never played group stages, but has somehow done it at National level?
They always hide behind team....
CR on the other hand had an overall average Euro 16 and missed the final and played AWFUL in UNL final and never played group stages, but has somehow done it at National level?
They always hide behind team....
achievements because on an individual level he does not compare.
59% of goals are v awful teams.
Then they talk about competitive games - like Andorra, Luxembourg, Lithuania, Faroe Islands, San Marino, Gibraltar etc ever competed against Portugal.
He scored a hattrick v Spain...
59% of goals are v awful teams.
Then they talk about competitive games - like Andorra, Luxembourg, Lithuania, Faroe Islands, San Marino, Gibraltar etc ever competed against Portugal.
He scored a hattrick v Spain...
in WC group stage...
The hattrick was v the worst Spain team since they became a great side and consisted of:
Goalkeeping error
Penalty
FK which was dived for
AND it was in the group stage.
Apparently group stage is irrelevant in ucl but when CR scores in groups in WC it is...
The hattrick was v the worst Spain team since they became a great side and consisted of:
Goalkeeping error
Penalty
FK which was dived for
AND it was in the group stage.
Apparently group stage is irrelevant in ucl but when CR scores in groups in WC it is...
the best of the best. He has done NOTHING past group stages in WC & this is the only international tournament that both players play in...which means its the only 1 in which we can fairly compare.
Messi has got further.
Far more G/A
Also 3x assists in KO - CR has 0g 0a in KO...
Messi has got further.
Far more G/A
Also 3x assists in KO - CR has 0g 0a in KO...
The biggest joke of all is that CR is somehow better due to 'doing it in 4 leagues'.
He done nothing with Sporting, as expected, as he was very young.
He joined a Utd team that won 3 of the previous 4 Prem titles. It took him 4 years to win a single one - to which he did win...
He done nothing with Sporting, as expected, as he was very young.
He joined a Utd team that won 3 of the previous 4 Prem titles. It took him 4 years to win a single one - to which he did win...
3 in a row and a UCL and league top scorer. This season was great but there have been 11 different seasons by players with more G/A - showing there have been far more complete seasons.
He also has only ever joined the richest most successful clubs in each country.
He joined...
He also has only ever joined the richest most successful clubs in each country.
He joined...
a successful Utd, a dominating Real and a hugely dominating Juve.
The only league he truly was challenged was in Spain against Messi. Had Barca had Eto'o, Villa and no Messi Cristiano would have won multiple Ligas. But Messi exists so he didnt.
Head to head Messi has dominated.
The only league he truly was challenged was in Spain against Messi. Had Barca had Eto'o, Villa and no Messi Cristiano would have won multiple Ligas. But Messi exists so he didnt.
Head to head Messi has dominated.
In UCL he beat CR in a semi and a final.
CRs only semi win v Messi - Messi somehow still stole the show despite losing. Cristiano also missed the 1st of many important pens in his career. Thankfully, his team mates again dragged him through.
The most telling statistic for me...
CRs only semi win v Messi - Messi somehow still stole the show despite losing. Cristiano also missed the 1st of many important pens in his career. Thankfully, his team mates again dragged him through.
The most telling statistic for me...
is the 1 where everytime Barca have been knocked out, it is because LM has 0g 0a - whereas in multiple ties CRs teams have qualified through ties without a CR goal or assist. The over-reliance on Messi is insane.
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