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Citizen participation in decision making is a good thing?
Well,
It’s not always the case
Thread starts here
Participatory Budgeting.
Think carefully about ‘Going Brazilian’. http://bit.ly/2xjciwb
Well,
It’s not always the case
Thread starts here
Participatory Budgeting.
Think carefully about ‘Going Brazilian’. http://bit.ly/2xjciwb
Link in the post to research from the environmental sector on PDM
Citizen Participatory in Decision Making -
Is it Worth the Effort.
Sometimes not...
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Renee_Irvin/publication/227541071_Citizen_Participation_in_Decision_Making_Is_It_Worth_the_Effort/links/5a78a2500f7e9b41dbd436f4/Citizen-Participation-in-Decision-Making-Is-It-Worth-the-Effort.pdf?origin=publication_detail
Citizen Participatory in Decision Making -
Is it Worth the Effort.
Sometimes not...
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Renee_Irvin/publication/227541071_Citizen_Participation_in_Decision_Making_Is_It_Worth_the_Effort/links/5a78a2500f7e9b41dbd436f4/Citizen-Participation-in-Decision-Making-Is-It-Worth-the-Effort.pdf?origin=publication_detail
Citizens especially in ‘crowds’ don’t always make smart decisions.
Anyone remember ‘Boaty McBoatface’?
Never ask the Internet to name something.
The ‘wisdom of crowds’ isn’t always plain sailing. http://bit.ly/2gm3oUS
Anyone remember ‘Boaty McBoatface’?
Never ask the Internet to name something.
The ‘wisdom of crowds’ isn’t always plain sailing. http://bit.ly/2gm3oUS
Back to the environment sector PDM research findings.
My take - involving citizens isn’t straight forward.
The context matters - massively
If both sides disagree, and there’s a bit of conflict it’s more likely to be beneficial.
Q?
How many times do we look for the easy route?
My take - involving citizens isn’t straight forward.
The context matters - massively
If both sides disagree, and there’s a bit of conflict it’s more likely to be beneficial.
Q?
How many times do we look for the easy route?
Always worth a look at what the environment sector have tried previously.
They have mostly ‘been there, tried that’
Especially on citizen enagagement.
Having limited cash and legal powers makes you a bit more thoughtful and creative imo
@JaneBryngwyn @gringreen
They have mostly ‘been there, tried that’
Especially on citizen enagagement.
Having limited cash and legal powers makes you a bit more thoughtful and creative imo
@JaneBryngwyn @gringreen
Back on Participatory Budgeting
One of my favourite quotes on the risks is from @tonybovaird
“People will vote for money to go to people ‘like me’ to do the things I want - and take it off the people I don’t like”
Think about that for a moment...
http://www.govint.org/good-practice/case-studies/participatory-budgeting-in-the-city-of-recife-brazil-the-worldas-most-participative-public-agency/
One of my favourite quotes on the risks is from @tonybovaird
“People will vote for money to go to people ‘like me’ to do the things I want - and take it off the people I don’t like”
Think about that for a moment...
http://www.govint.org/good-practice/case-studies/participatory-budgeting-in-the-city-of-recife-brazil-the-worldas-most-participative-public-agency/
I don’t think we need any more evidence that
Crowds don’t always make wise decisions...
The ‘Tyranny of the Herd’ is an epic @snowded introduced me to.
The Wisdom of Crowds, Flappy Birds, Tulip Mania, and The Tyranny of Herds http://bit.ly/1gJIs4V
Crowds don’t always make wise decisions...
The ‘Tyranny of the Herd’ is an epic @snowded introduced me to.
The Wisdom of Crowds, Flappy Birds, Tulip Mania, and The Tyranny of Herds http://bit.ly/1gJIs4V
And the point that there are specific conditions that are necessary for a crowd to make a wise decision.
A lot of it tracks back to Francis Galton
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd
All good maths and stats @SamW112358
A lot of it tracks back to Francis Galton
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd
All good maths and stats @SamW112358
So, the point I’m getting at here is that Citizen Participation is a good idea - but not a Silver Bullet.
It’s complex and needs careful thought.
See what @welshflier says
And,
It’s worth doing plenty of research before jumping into practice http://bit.ly/2xjciwb
It’s complex and needs careful thought.
See what @welshflier says
And,
It’s worth doing plenty of research before jumping into practice http://bit.ly/2xjciwb
One final thing
Has COVID-19 changed Co-production/ cititizen participation in decision making?
Has ‘Gold Command’ pushed it backwards, helped flourish or made no difference?
Thoughts?
@copronetwales
@noreenblanluet
@WorkingWithNot2
@wcvaruth
@EurgainHPowell
@ClimateJam
Has COVID-19 changed Co-production/ cititizen participation in decision making?
Has ‘Gold Command’ pushed it backwards, helped flourish or made no difference?
Thoughts?
@copronetwales
@noreenblanluet
@WorkingWithNot2
@wcvaruth
@EurgainHPowell
@ClimateJam
