Thread by @N17R0GLYC3R1N, [MASTERPOST] the allegations against brendon urie, explained. (tw // mentions of sexual [...]

[MASTERPOST] the allegations against brendon urie, explained. (tw // mentions of sexual assault , some against minors)

PART I - INTRODUCTION

im going to preface this by saying i want this thread to be as unbiased as possible. for this reason, i will not be adding my personal opinions or beliefs. i simply want to provide all of the information so you can make your own informed decision.

i will try my best to go in chronological order. i am also turning off replies as i do not want this thread getting cluttered. if you have any questions, comments, or just want to send something in feel free to dm me!

-END OF PART I-

PART II - FACEBOOK

on august 8th, 2020, a poster who wishes to remain anonymous posted this to a panic at the disco group. i want to make it clear that the poster themselves said they were still a fan of brendon’s and thought it was an accident at the time of posting-

-(i don’t know about their opinions on him now).

-END OF PART II-

PART III - KAM AND LEAH

on august 13th, 2020, two users under the names kam (@/kam02709814) and leah (@/leah62053062) came forward with allegations of sexual assault against brendon urie.

[KAM’S THREAD]

[LEAH’S THREAD]

quickly after these allegations came out, people grew suspicious for multiple reasons. the ones i will address in this thread are:
a. ip addresses
b. usernames and profile pictures
c. fanfictions
d. deletion

a. ip addresses
shortly after these allegations were posted, a rumor that these accounts shared the same ip address had spread. this can quickly be proven false with a simple google search. different devices cannot share the same ip address. kam tweeted from an ipad, while leah-

-tweeted from an iphone, making it impossible for them to come from the same ip address.

b. usernames and profile pictures
people were also suspicious of the fact that both accounts had similar usernames and profile pictures. as for the usernames, when making a new twitter account, twitter generates a custom username by combining your name and a string of 8 randomly-

-generated digits. i tested this myself by creating a dummy account.

as for the profile pictures, the ones kam and leah used were definitely not the default twitter profile picture that’s shown in my above screenshot. one account could have inspired the other, or it could just be a mere coincidence, but we don’t know for certain.

c. fanfictions
some people believe that leah’s allegation is based off of a fanfiction that i’ve provided screenshots for below. i also want to note that “going backstage” and “being picked from the crowd” are popular fanfiction tropes.

d. deletion
many bring into question that both the kam and leah accounts were deleted the very same day that they tweeted. one person dm’d kam right after they deleted their allegation and right before they deactivated their account, and kam claimed that their story was true.

this is what they had to say:

as for leah, their account was deactivated, reactivated, and deactivated again all on the same day. i do not have the screenshots, so whether you choose to believe me on this is up to you, but when leah reactivated they began to tweet saying that they were being silenced by-

-people who they believed were affiliated with panic.

now, onto the other kam accounts (yes, there are multiple). on august 15th, 2020, an account claiming to be behind both the kam and leah (@/kam027098145) allegations came forward and “admitted” to lying.

there are two things of concern presented here:
a. the person claims to have “lost and deleted” their previous accounts
b. they claim to have just made this account
these tweets were made only two days after the original accounts were deactivated. to deactivate a twitter account-

you are required to enter your password, and even after that it takes 30 days of inactivity until your account starts to be deleted. if they truly had forgotten their password, there are ways to recover it and their accounts as well.

as for the second one, it is just blatantly false. the account was made in july, while the allegations were made in mid-august. they even have tweets from early august that use completely different grammar and language.

now onto the second kam account. this account (@/kam02709815) was also claiming to be the original kam. they tweeted this on august 16th, 2020:

i don’t have all of the screenshots, but they were claiming that the account before them was fake, but that they were the real kam and that the allegations were in fact, a lie. again, the point of “losing” the account can be applied to this case as well. this was only three days-

-later, they definitely could have gotten access to their account. the profile picture was also a different color, and the tweets were from a different device (original kam was from ipad, new kam was from iphone).

a point to make with both of the “new” kam accounts is that the string of numbers in their usernames are strikingly similar to the original one. the first “new” account has 9 digits, meaning they chose that username. the second “new” account only has a 1 digit difference, which-

-should be almost impossible since the 8 digits twitter generates are random.

and to be extra certain, i tested this myself by making another dummy account, and the username is nowhere near similar to the first one i made.

-END OF PART III-

PART IV - ZOE

on august 14th, 2020, an account under the name anonymous (@/zoe18383919) tweeted this allegation:

it is highly unlikely that this account is associated with the other accounts, considering this is the first time we’ve seen twitter for android being used. this account, just like the others, was later deactivated.

-END OF PART IV-

PART V - FACEBOOK MESSAGES

im going to be very limited with my words here, considering this is an actual case where the authorities are involved. to put it simply, multiple people had shared stories about “brendon” contacting them on facebook and sending explicit messages and-

-asking for and sharing nude photographs (some of minors). from what we know now it was not brendon behind this, but most likely someone by the name of chelsey, who is known as the infamous brendonurievines within the fan base.

-END OF PART V-

PART VI - CIARA

a girl by the name of ciara came forward about her story on august 16th, 2020.

there’s definitely been some controversy over this one as well. many people who know ciara say how she’s manipulative and a liar, and a few even say that they have video evidence of her being in the nosebleeds, not on the floor. the account that ciara used to post the-

-allegations has since been deleted.

-END OF PART VI-

PART VII - SHANE AND THE CAB

on the same day that the kam and leah allegations were posted, shane morris (ryan ross’ ex manager) decided to speak up about it in a series of tweets, and later did a periscope livestream discussing everything.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/chQPFjFvUEVMT1BsR3h3amR8MXlvS01YcVhtTU94UVeUk3Snq-V4A_oEuN2Gcew7WVGs9htP0PgGE6mZV5BJ

Shane Morris @IamShaneMorris

The Brendon Urie thing.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/chQPFjFvUEVMT1BsR3h3amR8MXlvS01YcVhtTU94UVeUk3Snq-V4A_oEuN2Gcew7WVGs9htP0PgGE6mZV5BJ

it is important to note that shane has been caught lying multiple times before. be careful.

now onto alex johnson. alex is a member of a band called the cab, which used to tour with panic and was even signed under the fueled by ramen label. and on the 17th, he went to twitter to say this:

i’ve heard a rumor going around that while on tour with them, brendon had slept with alex’s girlfriend (pre-sarah). whether this has anything to do with alex’s statements is unknown.

cash colligan, another member of the cab, replied to alex’s tweet about brendon with this. the conversation is very vague (most likely on purpose) but it’s most likely about brendon.

cash also made some tweets of his own about brendon:

but along with this, there is this tweet from 2013. make of it what you will.

to finish this off, ian crawford (ex touring guitarist for panic) liked this tweet a few days ago:

-END OF PART VII-

PART VIII - UPDATES

this will be where i will add any updates/corrections to the thread as needed :)

thank you so much to @marriedt0sea for the screenshots of leah’s tweets!

many people brought to my attention that ip adresses can be shared, but again, there’s no proof of this being the case for kam and leah.

!! to add on to this !! the person who started this rumor admitted to lying about it

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