I can't speak for other nonbinary and transmasc people, but I don't want to be included in women's spaces. I want to be acknowledged and included in spaces that recognize my gender as marginalized but for which misgendering, implicit or direct, isn't the ticket price.

The ways we experience the violence--social and physical--enacted on people *society identifies as women* is mediated heavily by gender identity. The misogyny is superficially the same; its impact isn't.

Women claiming us and then rejecting us when we try to articulate our separate experiences -- let alone express that they've been the source of a lot of that specific trauma and frustration -- is an exhausting cycle, and one we get stuck in because we have nowhere else to go.

In your quest to be inclusive of transwomen (GOOD! IMPORTANT!), I think a lot of you have jumped straight to "everyone not a cis man is a woman" as the proper progressive stance.