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Most common reasons people claim kuroken is "problematic" to ship and my rebuttal to them, because I& #39;m tired.
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"Kuroo sees Kenma as a brother, so it& #39;s incest."
-They& #39;re not related, like at all.
-Het childhood friend pairings with this trope never get scrutinized like mlm ships, so what& #39;s up with that?
-You may view someone unrelated to you as family at some point, it& #39;s still not incest.
-They& #39;re not related, like at all.
-Het childhood friend pairings with this trope never get scrutinized like mlm ships, so what& #39;s up with that?
-You may view someone unrelated to you as family at some point, it& #39;s still not incest.
"Kenma is portrayed as feminine, which is heteronormative"
-Gay men can be feminine too, heck my brother is a feminine gay man and likes "manly" men. Is he being heteronormative?
-Not every krkn shipper portrays him like that, so it& #39;s unfair to treat all of us as a monolith.
-Gay men can be feminine too, heck my brother is a feminine gay man and likes "manly" men. Is he being heteronormative?
-Not every krkn shipper portrays him like that, so it& #39;s unfair to treat all of us as a monolith.
"The height difference makes it seem like Kenma is a child, so pedophilia."
-Height difference in adult couples of all orientations and genders are very common.
-It& #39;s weird that you see people on the shorter side as children by default, seems like a personal problem to me.
-Height difference in adult couples of all orientations and genders are very common.
-It& #39;s weird that you see people on the shorter side as children by default, seems like a personal problem to me.
"Kenma is always the bottom, making it homophobic and heteronormative."
-Preferences in sexual things exist in the gay community. Have you ever talked to LGBT+ circles OUTSIDE the internet before? This is very common.
-Also, again, all krkn shippers have different preferences.
-Preferences in sexual things exist in the gay community. Have you ever talked to LGBT+ circles OUTSIDE the internet before? This is very common.
-Also, again, all krkn shippers have different preferences.
"Kenma is portrayed as innocent and dependent of Kuroo all the time."
-Not all krkn shippers portray Kenma like this and they understand his character is more fleshed out than that.
-I consume a lot of krkn content and I hardly see this trope honestly.
-Not all krkn shippers portray Kenma like this and they understand his character is more fleshed out than that.
-I consume a lot of krkn content and I hardly see this trope honestly.
"Let male best friends remain friends, it doesn& #39;t always have to be gay."
-Mainstream media usually just feeds us male characters with strong bonds with other male characters...and they& #39;re always straight.
-What& #39;s wrong with making gay fan content?
-Mainstream media usually just feeds us male characters with strong bonds with other male characters...and they& #39;re always straight.
-What& #39;s wrong with making gay fan content?
"All krkn fans are cishet women and this ship is a fetish to them."
-I wasn& #39;t aware there was a study done on this, where& #39;s the data? Because most of my krkn friends are not cis, het or even women.
-Assuming the identity of every krkn shipper as so is homophobic and transphobic.
-I wasn& #39;t aware there was a study done on this, where& #39;s the data? Because most of my krkn friends are not cis, het or even women.
-Assuming the identity of every krkn shipper as so is homophobic and transphobic.
There& #39;s way more reasons I& #39;ve seen, but these usually come to mind and they& #39;re wrapped in "woke" and "progressive" language to seem valid when they& #39;re very much the contrary. These takes are just thinly veiled bigotry hurled at people minding their own business tbh
If you dislike krkn, that& #39;s perfectly fine! Not everyone sees their dynamic as romantic and that& #39;s okay. It& #39;s just not okay to invent reasons to make it seem problematic though, or attack others for liking it, just to feel like your ship preference is morally superior to krkn.
A lot of the time, the tropes that are used in krkn are tropes I see in other Kenma and Kuroo ships too tbh (usually by the same people that criticize krkn), and those are apparently fine?
Treating fans of a ship as a monolith is also insensitive. We are all different people with different preferences and identities. Saying we ALL portray them the same, that we ALL harass non-krkn shippers, that we& #39;re ALL disrespectful is a blatant lie.
I& #39;m not saying that some krkn shippers aren& #39;t disrespectful or that they don& #39;t harass others, because some do and honestly I don& #39;t condone that at all, but they& #39;re a small minority. It& #39;s just not okay to demonize everyone who& #39;s into krkn or any other ship.
You can hate krkn and have it as a notp, but at least be better about presenting your opinions. You can hate something without having a reason to hate it. Honestly obsessing about your hate for something that& #39;s not hurting anyone is pretty unhealthy too.
Remember, fandom is supposed to be fun. Stop treating shipping as a form of activism and start treating people with respect, even if they like something you dislike. Treating real people with dignity is more important than a fictional relationship. I think many forget this.
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