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I'm a bit uncomfortable about this given that Ortberg (who's still, as I understand it, under investigation by his church) wrote the Foreword for this book and is a key part of it.
Given the concern over safeguarding in the church at the moment, perhaps another choice? 1/5 https://twitter.com/bigchurchread/status/1294188812831162368
Given the concern over safeguarding in the church at the moment, perhaps another choice? 1/5 https://twitter.com/bigchurchread/status/1294188812831162368
I understand that John Mark Comer and Ortberg aret different people, but given the book's focus on wisdom and slowing down, maybe a wise call and a slow down here would be a good idea?
At the very least, why not wait for the investigation (if its still ongoing) to conclude? 2/5
At the very least, why not wait for the investigation (if its still ongoing) to conclude? 2/5
Given that Comer writes "John is the kind of person you meet and immediately think, I want to be like that when I grow up" AND there's a Willow Creek link, I'd REALLY want to see some slowing down and waiting before @bigchurchread kicks off.
I say all this as someone who 3/5
I say all this as someone who 3/5
LOVES the church, LOVES books, and LOVES publishing. I also say this as someone who is a sinner, has been caught, and cares deeply that the way we conduct ourselves has integrity.
As it stands, investigation in progress, I hope things just slow down a bit. 4/5
As it stands, investigation in progress, I hope things just slow down a bit. 4/5
Of course, if someone can point me to the results of the investigation that exonerate Ortberg, then I'd obviously retract everything I'm saying and apologise to both John's for raising it. But I think it's important, so there's this thread.
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(for anyone wondering what I'm on about, see the following from @CTmagazine
Investigation - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/february/pastor-john-ortberg-menlo-park-childrens-volunteer.html
Resignation - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/july/john-ortberg-resigns-menlo-church.html
Comment - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/august-web-only/john-ortberg-pitfalls-pastor-discernment.html
New investigation (this link via @RNS obvs) - https://religionnews.com/2020/07/12/john-ortberg-megachurch-announces-new-investigation-lavery-menlo-transparency/
Investigation - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/february/pastor-john-ortberg-menlo-park-childrens-volunteer.html
Resignation - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/july/john-ortberg-resigns-menlo-church.html
Comment - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/august-web-only/john-ortberg-pitfalls-pastor-discernment.html
New investigation (this link via @RNS obvs) - https://religionnews.com/2020/07/12/john-ortberg-megachurch-announces-new-investigation-lavery-menlo-transparency/
