Thread, surrogacy: One gay man said to me "you get what you pay for" when I said his son, born through surrogacy, was extremely bright (for his age).

Another told me that he insisted on "his surrogate" giving birth by C-section because he didn't want his child to go through a woman's vagina.

Then there was a heterosexual couple I met in Israel that told me if "their surrogate" had a disabled baby they would give it up for adoption and reduce her fee.

An orthodox Rabbi in Tel Aviv said he would rather that gay men had babies through surrogacy than not have babies at all.

In Spain, a gay man told me he had "commissioned" three babies from three different "surrogates" at the same time and was paying them all under the minimum wage. He was worth at least €50 million.

in India, at one of the clinics that sell surrogacy services, I was told that the women can't read the contracts that they were forced to sign, and had to put across by the signature box. These are women supposedly making an informed choice.

Surrogacy is a human rights violation, and commoditise women's reproductive capability, as well as the children involved. Gay men have no right to claim "homophobia" because they can't have their own babies.